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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:11 am Post subject: | |
| Bottom line I love Democrats they do not rob our schools, our social policies, I have never disliked a president so much in my life as George Bush and I am not alone. He was never even the peoples choice to begin with Read the new book out on what his own cabinet has to say about his ignorance. I love Edwards and hope he comes from behind enough of politics Novemeber will tell you how the people feel. George is the biggest lying politician we have ever had | |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:37 am Post subject: | |
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Man, did you ever expose yourself with that ! Would you define "lying" for us? Truth sounds strange when you 've never heard it before. Democrats could not exist without the Big Lie ! That's all they do. Edwards is scary, a guy who made millions off other people's misery, but that's OK with you, cause he got it from 'da man'. Kerry won't make it to the convention. Too much history on him. Dean supporters are torn between Castro and some sort of vegetable. George Bush has kept your ass safe at home but you're too stupid to realize it. This country will destroy itself with folks like you running around. You don't deserve the freedom you have. Good Night. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:16 am Post subject: | |||
Dear msguru, Sorry if you don't see the connection. The company, and all companies actually, are as much victims of today's social standards as you and I are. Boards and CEOs can do little more than try to maximize their golden parachutes. Years of overbearing Governmental regulations and laws have brought us to where we are. Our choices at election times are responsible for the end results. Social equality sounds great till you're the one held back by it. The level playing field means everyone is treated the same, with indifference. You thought it would improve things, didn't you? Freedom is hard to understand and even harder to work within, but socialism is impossible. The thought processes of our voters is very important. It's hard to believe but there are those out there who have forgotten 9/11. They want to put our security into the hands of those who would seek UN approval to defend ourselves. They think the economy is the Governments fault but that the terrorist will just go away if we leave them alone. And these people get to vote. Scary, when you think about it. That's why the discussion belongs in this forum. The way our people think and vote is the reason your job is so crappy. Simple enough? Hope you can see the connection better now. DonQuixote |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:50 am Post subject: | |
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In regards to 9/11, Mr. Bush's administration did nothing to prevent it either. He did retaliate as one would expect him to, but he didn't cut off the head of the terrorists - Bin Laden is still at large. He did invade a soveriegn nation on the backs of lies. True, Saddam had to go, but I didn't realize that eminent domain had become our new foriegn policy.
Sears sales were not up. We did about .08 percent less this Xmas than Xmas 2002. I can attest to the fact that traffic was far less than last year, all middle income retailers did badly. Now the retailers of the rich and famous (eg, Neiman Marcus and the like) were up substantially since the rich made more money from their holdings in companies who increased their production and profits through the use of outsourced foriegn workers. All I know is that the country is bankrupted, the deficit is at 7 Trillion for the first time ever and more people are out of work than should be. The wealthy have all benefitted from the administration's actions while the rest of us struggle. Seems odd that you all complain about Clinton while you all enjoyed a better standard of living while he was in office. Now you all come here to complain about how bad it is economically, but you're willing to give Bush four more years to undo his mess. heh |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 8:58 am Post subject: | |||
You might not want to remember this but when the technology bubble burst it was under clinton. During 2000 there was a significant slow down and Bush was saying that the economy was slowing down. Gore and clinton didnt even see there was a problem. Then in 2001 the final clinton buget year(remember Bushs buget dosent start until 2002) we go into a recession. Bush saw the economy going straight down and the democrats never saw it. What the democrats did say was that bush was a presidential canidate was talking down the economy and caused the recession by words....lol Getting to the tax cut....First off the tax rebate wasn’t part of the tax cut. That tax rebate check you got was Mr. Gepharts idea. The original Bush plan never had it included. The rebate check just provided you with some of your tax money for that year a bit earlier...that’s all. Also getting back to Bush’s tax cut... most of the tax cut is back ended for the later years. Now take a look at some of Kerry’s own words regarding his actions in Vietnam. He’s a self-admitted war criminal. He saw US soldiers committing war crimes and never did anything to stop it or report it. Also he admitted committing war crimes.....and this is the man the democrats want as president??? No wonder they didn’t want to do anything against saddam...they must think he’s a nice guy...lol |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:13 am Post subject: | |||
Explain all the Clinton Pardons...what about Mr. Rich???? All his money in Swiss bank accounts and living in Europe...... CLinton giving him a full pardon....oh and take a look at Bush Prosecuting all these criminals who committed crimes during the Clinton administration 
Oh one more thing...what about Ms clinton and her investments also what about the whitewater land deal....who got hurt in these deals???? i love democrats when they talk about the little guy and then ignore the actions of there leaders :) Al Gore lost his own home state in 2000 because he was a SLUM LORD. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:18 am Post subject: | |||
[quote="SearsService"]
Yes it was and taught us a lesson. But a lesson that Clinton never learned and it cost us lives. |
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Diffrent embassy.....but Clinton never responded properly to the african embassy bombings....the enemy was found but Clinton refused to risk american pilots to make sure the target was eliminated. This was someing bush or Regan would have risk....just look what we did against Lybia....we are willing to risk american lives to protect americans. However clinton never believed in this...and a few years later 9-11 occured because of it.....Clinton had his shot many times at Bin laden.....but either refused to pull the trigger or made a half hearted attack. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:28 am Post subject: | |||
Its funny but most people don’t know that Bush actually won the popular vote. SO many uncounted absentee ballots over 2 million in the United States. Once bush got his 270 electoral votes those popular votes were never counted. Considering how small a margin Gore had in the popular vote and that absentee ballots typically are for republicans.... Bush most likely won the Popular vote too...but nobody has counted those ballots. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:38 am Post subject: | |||
Bush wanted to handle Bin laden and had the US military come up with a plan to do it. The plan arrived on his desk on 9-10-01. He was going to review the plan and debate it with his chief advisors later in the week and make any changes necessary. He thought time was on our side....we also needed time to transform the military which was what rumsfeld was just starting to do. Then we were hit...a great fear swept over the administration and the govt...was there a high level spy for Al-Qaeda inside the govt???? As time grew they discovered it wasn’t a spy.... just Al-Qaeda stuck us before we could strike them. An enemy that should have been eliminated in the 90's. Does anybody here think if Bush had a clear shot at Bin Laden in the 90's he wouldn’t have had him eliminated???? On Saddam.... Everything that was said was true...the problem is.... something nobody in the govt really wants said ....we got there to late....the WMD is now in terrorist hands. This again was something Clinton should have taken care of in the 90's. |
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Look me in the eye and say the world is better off with Saddam. Come on...I dare ya! What happened to the liberal policy of JFK?????????? What is our military strength for if not for the policy of force projection for democracy? Is it moral for us to be free and let others be enslaved when we have the power to free others? The Dems are enslaved by the labor movement......How do they honestly say that they "would fight any foe" of freedom now? All they want is a free handout and free healthcare...........screw anybody else and the rest of the country.......how many of us get free heathcare as a part of our wages? More power to Safeway, Ralphs and Albertsons. I hope that the So Cal strike destroys the union of grocery workers......do any of us deserve free medical? I have to pay for mine! I looked at the guy putting away frozen food today at Safeway...........and I thought "this guy has a good gig...."does he deserve free healthcare for his job when I have to pay for mine"? I live in Nor California....if they go on strike in the summer I will cross their picket line over and over and flip them off..........the unions are the ultimate special interist.... |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:27 pm Post subject: | |||
Yes, Bush did retaliate as one would expect. Now think what would have happened if Gore were able to steal the Presidency. We would have done little or nothing and I believe we would have experienced another attack. Do you think the economy would be any different with Gore? The only difference would be a slower and more painful recovery without the tax cuts that we enjoy now. All the surplus that Clinton supposedly had would have evaporated with the reccession that started under him. Sears sales are down, not because of anything the Government has done or hasn't done. You say Neiman-Marcus and other high end stores have done great because the rich are doing well. How, if only the rich are living well, do you explain Walmart, Target and Penney doing so well. Sears is down only because we have people in management who are marketing imbeciles. Blame Sears on Sears and not any outside force. Oh, and yes I'm willing to give Bush four more years to undo Clinton's mess. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:28 pm Post subject: | |||
It's time to close this circle, since it's going nowhere. I do want to add just this one thing for all you Bush Haters, you're like the kid who shit on the kitchen floor and then blamed the dog. In the middle of all the evidence, facts all around you, you still try to cast the blame elsewhere. Democrats must have medals they give each other for that. DonQuixote |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:57 pm Post subject: | |
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Sears Net Sales (in billions):
2003 41,120 2002 41,366 2001 40,990 2000 40,937 1999 39,484 Sears did have fewer Net Sales Dollars in 2003 than in 2002. But compare those numbers to the height of the Clinton era (1999-2000) and you will see that we have more Net Sales now than then. Sears sales have been virtually stagnant for years...and no administration is responisible for this fact. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject: | |||
2003 was the when we started to push lower end and cost items in BC. This pushed down sales numbers. Now that's a company idea not from government. If you want this country to grow we need to stop the social handouts that turn many into slaves for the government be making them dependent on it and get rid of NAFTA and get the jobs back here. I'm all for giving someone a helping hand to get over a hurdle in their life but to have so many generations staying on welfare is sad and we can thank the Dems. for that. |
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All I know, at least from what the old timers tell me (I've only been at Sears 2 years, prior to that I was in another industry making three times as much as I make here, economic downturns destroyed it for us older guys, and it wasn't a dot com) is that BC Appliance sales folk took home huge checks, it was not unheard of for a consultative associate to make 60 to 70 thousand a year and BC was a position aspired to. Now they hire anybody who can turn on a dishwasher, cut commissions, cut hours and load the floor. The latest piece of good news is diluting FLS commissioned sales by putting appliances in Sears Hardware Stores (where I hear it will be not be commissioned.) heh
I don't blame anyone but myself for my current lot in life and I am working hard to overcome it. It is a shame that, unless you are a SGM or higher in the management chain you cannot make a living at Sears (I tried the Lead route briefly, talk about serfdom, LOL!!!). So I look hard elsewhere for a place to take my selling skills. And regarding the comment on Al Gore almost stealing the presidency. That's a laugh. Gore won hands down. The voting in several states was flawed, most notably Florida. Good thing Daddy Bush had those Supreme Court appointees to do his bidding and give W the election. Talk about the American people being robbed. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 4:13 pm Post subject: | |
| Don Q just cast your vote for the evil George and he will be bought up by more oil companies, and pharmecutical!!! More people in the working class poor will suffer from being robbed by the corporate giants like the Enrons and the Chevron, not to mention the MCI's, and Guess what the Sears of the world they discard there people take free tax dollars from the state Sears Maytag and Motorola are the worse oh I know that doesnt effect your proberty tax you dont live in the state | |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:43 am Post subject: | |||
Good post Low! I like Edwards too but I think a Kerry/ Edwards ticket is the way we win our county back from these nuts! But I think it's going to be a 50/ 50 spilt again. Let us hope we are on the up side of this, this time around. I am just so sick of this right wing crap! ~GoodFella |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:58 am Post subject: | |||
What will Kerry/Edwards do for me? |
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I don't got a clue what it would do for you? But I know it would help my family and friends. ~GoodFella |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:39 pm Post subject: | |||
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Good post Low! I like Edwards too but I think a Kerry/ Edwards ticket is the way we win our county back from these nuts! But I think it's going to be a 50/ 50 spilt again. Let us hope we are on the up side of this, this time around. Well Low after reading some of your replies I can only say If you dislike Bush so much, he must be doing something right. You and GF say you want to take the country back from these "nuts". It's only because of these "nuts" that theree is a country to take back. All the Dems with their policy of appeasement and capitulation would have invited more and more attacks on these shores by those that hate us. Years of Clinton, worrying more of how history would view him instead of defending this country, set the stage for many of the problems we face today. John Kerry was a military hero, but he was a public coward. He flip-flops on most issues and is willing to put the protection of this country low on his list of priorities. That is not what this country needs. You want to give hand outs to the poor, well we will all be in that boat when the terrorists destroy the economy of this country when they don't have to worry about retaliation by a liberal President. Go BUSH!!!!! |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:39 pm Post subject: | |
| Bush is a coward who hid from service legally during Vietnam. He does what daddy tells him too. His tax cuts favor the rich at the average man's expense. His policies are bankrupting the country. I am not better off now, I was better off four years ago. Why do Republicans always think that helping mankind is appeasement and if it doesn't profit big business it isn't good for the country? I am very sure that the Halliburton "overcharge" is just the small tip of a very large iceberg. | |
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The truth is not in you. You bash the President and praise a guy who put himself in for medals over minor wounds because he was in the position to do so. He even pushed to get sent home after his third "purple" so he protest those still there and call them murderers. Yeah, I'm talking about Kerry...........he's a jerk and time will expose his sorry ass. Too much history, he can't dodge and hide much longer. That's why he's trying a equate mention of his voting record as questioning his war service.......The Dixie Chicks defense...." if you don't buy my records it's censorship." It won't work for him either. Edwards, he is scary. He's a big spending liberal with not much history and the women will get the wet feeling in their drawers and go vote for him cause he's so cute. God, what a country. Bottom line, your charges against GW are not true, you know it but that's going to stop you. Facts about your guys are just us being mean. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:10 am Post subject: | |||
Actually your name should be Demsucker. You listen to the half truths and outright lies told by the left and believe it as gospel. How is allowing madmen like Saddam to kill and threaten the world helping mankind. The taxcut is another fiction by the left. The way they look at it, if a man pays $20,000 in taxes and gets back $2,000 and another pays $500 in taxes and gets back $50 the rich are being favored. Well both are a 10% return and they both deserve it. Saying the rich are favored is liberal typical fuzzy logic. |
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