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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 4:22 am Post subject: Fox news viewers are more likely to be misinformed. | |||
From The Verdict Is In: TV News Is Bad For Your Brain. You can read the full report here. The only contention I can add is "tell me something that I didn't already know!". They don't call it "Faux News" for nothing. |
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That poll is rediculas......."misperceptions"????????? The poll says if you dont agree with thier "perception" you are misguided! Complete elitist bullshit.
sleK, Fox news is not available in Canada correct? Dont you think you should maybye watch it and draw your own conclusions? That report and site is complete propaganda......nice try to try and pass it off as even close to legitmate! |
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Perhaps you should read about the organization that undertook the study:
http://www.pipa.org/about.html edit: I agree that the site I found the link on is biased as all hell but they aren't responsible for the report. Nice knee-jerk anyways BTW. 
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I did indeed look at the site........the foundations above can not even be described as even middle of the road! They have a far left viewpoint......so it really means that the study was slanted and non scientific....... BTW Fox is the number one cable news network because they have the most interesting and entertaing hosts and guests....they also have a great sense of humor......they screw with everybody....for example, when CNN started a new morning show to compete against Fox's morning show, the cast of Fox and Friends walked down the street to CNNs studios and handed out Fox mugs and tee shirts in front of the CNN studio windows! Fox is reporting that there is a movement to block Fox from Canada........I wonder what they are afraid of? Maybye a network that shows all points of view? EDIT Do you really think it was a co-inky-dink that the website above used that story? Do you think they would have used one from, say The Heritage Foundation???? |
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That doesn't dispute the reports' findings.
And that, besides being a blatant abuse of punctuation, is a non sequitur. While the organizations that fund PIPA may, as you allege, have a leftward leaning slant, that does not indicate that the findings are false or that the findings were not deduced by scientific methods. Furthermore, Fox news could be the most interesting and entertaining TV station in the entire universe but that does not mean that the content in their programming is accurate or without bias of its own. Perhaps you'd care to dispute the findings themselves as opposed to those who found them? |
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The site does not list how they took their poll nor does it say where they did it. It makes no claim that it was scientific or even the questions asked. The way you ask a question makes a huge difference in the answer don't you think? So how can you conclude with the evidence at hand that is not biased? Now I am sure you can say that there is no proof that it is.....except one must consider the source of all information. Untill we see the specifics of the poll, I put it too you it is biased. How do you know that Fox is biased? Have you seen it? Or is this just what you have heard from people with a viewpoint that would not agree with a fair and balanced format? Almost every time a guest from one side is on, Fox almost every time tries to show the opposing view. That is something CNN and MSNBC almost never did.....that is one reason why it is now number one in news. People want and deserve to see both side....even the people of Canada! When you have Fox available to you, tell me what you think about it. Self expression does not seem to be one of your problems! 
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:06 am Post subject: | |||
Read the report. The link is in the opening post. |
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:23 am Post subject: | |
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I should have looked more closely for the link.
[quote]Steven Kull comments, “Here too these correlations do not establish what is causal. However multivariate regression analyses suggest that changes in perceptions of world public opinion could have some impact on voting behavior in the presidential election.” The poll was conducted with a nationwide sample of 1,311 respondents from March 16-22. The margin of error was plus or minus 2.8%-4.5%, depending on whether the question was administered to all or part of the sample. A full report and the questionnaire can be found at www.pipa.org. The poll was fielded by Knowledge Networks using its nationwide panel, which is randomly selected from the entire adult population and subsequently provided internet access. For more information about this methodology, go to www.knowledgenetworks.com/ganp. Funding for this research was provided by the Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Ford Foundation. I took your advice and looked into this poll more closely. The poll appears to be fairly legitimate, but the conclusions seem to be biased. They make the case based on their own opinions. IF you watched Fox and IF you agreed that Saddam had terrorist ties THEN you must be mis informed. Nice try....dont buy it. |
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 8:35 am Post subject: | |
| No BG. Read the report. If you want to dispute their findings, please do but at least cite some examples and provide some evidence to the contrary. | |
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| Hello??? Is this thing on????? I did read it. The poll listed findings based on the questions they asked. The questions were honest and open. But the conclusions they took from it are what I find biased. Is that so hard to understand? Just because a poll is taken does not mean one must follow the conclusions blindly. You find a poll taken on behalf of several left wing foundations......the poll concludes that peoples opinions are based on what news source they are exposed too. (no shit) then makes a judgement of the correctness based on the news source. The pollsters make the assumtion that news gained from PBS is more correct than gained from other sources such as Fox. Like you cant see the problem with that?????? Or the bias? | |
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Are you into the Bombay again or something?
Incorrect. The pollsters took a fact, created some questions from that fact, and found that PBS viewers were more likely to know the fact than Fox viewers. eg: Fact: The Earth is ellipsoidal. Pollster: What shape is the Earth? PBS viewer: Roughly spherical. Fox viewer: Green!!! Result: PBS viewers are aware that the Earth is spherical in shape while Fox viewers have trouble discerning shapes from colors. Of course the information used to generate the questions was much more complex. If you'd like to read some of that information you should refer to page 3 of the report. |
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 1:42 pm Post subject: | |
| I get my news from NPR radio, ABC news, Fox news, Rush, Sean Hannity, Radio Factor and others sources to get both liberal and conservative points of view. I think the libs are really out of it, the conservatives not as bad. | |
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Unfortunately, media of all types is slanted or biased in one way or another. Polls can be slanted and biased as well, as any group of statistics can be put together to show a desired outcome. I feel sorry for those who only get their news from one source. I saw one poll where many people get their "news" from the Tonight show or David Letterman's monologues.
Slek, please point out some evidence other than a "misperception poll" that shows that Fox News is "Faux News". |
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 10:08 pm Post subject: | |||
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Here is an interesting article about what Americans think of the news media.
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13287 From the article.
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| Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 10:32 pm Post subject: | |
| The polls results are based on the "facts" of the perceptions. For instance the "fact" that the poll states that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. Now if you dis agree with this "fact" you are therfore mis informed it their eyes. Many people believe that Saddam may have had something to do with 9/11....it also does not prove that the networks gave out the wrong info. Again, this like almost any other poll is like CCC says....its conclusions are based on a set of "facts" that are set up to agree with what the pollsters wanted to show. There are very few questions that have a right or wrong answer, most are based on "facts" from the point of view of those who stated them. | |