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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 5:35 am Post subject: Should gay marriages be legalized nationwide? | |
| I am curious does anyone think that gays and lesbians should be allowed to legally be married in our country? or do you think we should allow them to but call it something like a union instead of marriage. what are your thoughts on this | |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 7:53 am Post subject: | |
I am all for it.  
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:42 am Post subject: | |
| They can do what they want but dont agree with them adopting children.. Its the wrong message for a child... | |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 3:04 am Post subject: | |||
Perhaps you could enlighten us with whatever "the right" message for a child is? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:04 am Post subject: | |||||
i don't necessarily believe it is the "wrong message," however, would you agree that the majority of people are heterosexual? since the majority of children are heterosexual, they should be raised in a heterosexual household, or they may become very confused. gay people can do whatever they want, that is up to them to decide, but when it involves another life such as this, you should measure the odds that the child is most likely heterosexual, and should be raised in such a household. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:21 am Post subject: | |
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Unhappy...do you think that if a homosexual raised a child that the child would grow up gay, too? Gays can be very loving individuals and if they raised a child then it would tell them that it is okay to love anyone that they feel comfortable with. It makes the child less of a bigot as well. And just because gays raised a child does not mean the child will grow up gay.
Something to think about unhappy...were you BORN straight or did you CHOOSE to be straight? 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:29 am Post subject: | |
| i just think the child would be confused...the majority of people are heterosexual, and should be raised in that environment | |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:30 am Post subject: | |
| My policy is the same as the militarys...dont ask...dont tell......I dont want to know what they do. As long as it does not harm someone I dont care....but I dont want it forced down my throat. Lewd conduct of any sexual orientation should be stopped......(public I mean) | |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:33 am Post subject: | |
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I want to know why straight marriages are legalized!
That's my beef.  ~GoodFella
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:37 am Post subject: | |
THATS RIGHT!!!! The gay people should have the right to lose half their shit too!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:37 am Post subject: | |
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Unhappy1314,
riddle me this: Do you believe that homosexual children should be removed from their hetero families' home and thrown into a gay halfway house till suitable gay parents can be found? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:40 am Post subject: | |||
oftentimes those children are not found to be gay until college age, so that would be very difficult to go by...i say you go by the numbers...the majority wins, that is what this country is about |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:40 am Post subject: | |
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If I may ask a question SleK, can you please define the term "homosexual children"?
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:43 am Post subject: | |||
Assume you know that they are gay. Would you advocate their removal from hetero homes? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 6:03 am Post subject: | |
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Unhappy1314,
Even if the child of gay parents grows up to be gay, does that make them bad parents? I certainly don't think so. If you don't have anything against gays, then what's the problem? It shouldn't matter to you, or anyone else whether this child grows up to be gay or straight. -NAz |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 7:02 am Post subject: children | |
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Look, Unhappy is right, the majority of couples in our nation are heterosexual. As a result, for a gay couple to adopt a child is cruel to the child. Why do I say this? Remember when you were a child? What happened at school? Did not your classmates that found any difference about somebody use that difference to pick on the other child incessently? Now imagine you are seven years old and in school, imagine you have not been exposed to many children outside of your family and school itself. One of your friends comes over your house, sees your family, and asks you when your dad will be home. Or if you have a dad. Then you explain that you have two moms instead. What will happen to you at school the next day? And every other day until you get into high school?
Now to continue. As everyone knows, the majority of women care for some activities and do not care for others. The majority of men care for some activities and do not care for others. For example, a large percentage of men have at least a passing interest in the sport of boxing, while a low percentage of women do. That can be shown in other areas as well. For example, an extremely low percentage of men have an interest in cheerleading, while a higher percentage of women have an interest in cheerleading. In other words, in order for your child to get the most diverse at home education on a variety of topics, it is necessary for the household to have a diverse population. To do anything less would be a disservice to the child. I have some basic knowledge of this. I was engaged at one point with somebody that was bi-sexual and that had a child from a previous marriage. When her child wanted help learning how to play football, she did not jump right up and start teaching the kid the process to complete a screen pass, she asked me to do it. That person to do that would not be there in a dual mother household. That's an important factor in a child's development. ICKIMORE |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 11:24 am Post subject: | |||||
Which really has no bearing on the topic... at all. Majority does not rule, nor should it, in matters relating to what goes on in the privacy of ones own home.
I'd like to see some hard evidence of this. I'm not disputing the fact that kids get picked on. Kids get picked for the most trivial of things, all the time; but your presumption that being picked on for having gay parents is somehow more cruel and unusual than the average socio-economic reasons is, in my opinion, plainly reactionary and quite possibly a factor in the perpetuation of gays as deviant and/or harmful. If you can show that the cruelty a child reared by gay parents endures is greater and/or more harmful than any other adolescent inflicted cruelty I'd be more inclined to give your position more serious consideration. Until then, your personal opinion on what constitutes "cruel" and "diverse" is just that; your personal opinion. Thus not something to base a potentially prejudicial law upon. And let's face it: using highly speculative assumptions and unfounded beliefs to restrict the rights of any segment of the population is pure and simple prejudice. segregaytion++ edit: clarification |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 9:12 pm Post subject: | |
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Hello...... The anus is an exit not an entrance.. Animals even know better....
Could you just see it .. little Jack or Jill walking into their "two dads" or their "two moms" bedroom and finding them pleasing each other.. And I guess this is a good thing right. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 9:30 pm Post subject: | |||
let us not get too involved in sex 101 here.... but.... the only animals/mammals that have sex for PLEASURE are humans and dolphins. the rest do it purely for procreation, thus OF COURSE the anus is an exit. there are many things people do for pleasure involving body parts that are not "normal - male domant intercourse". does this make it wrong? no. no matter how you cut it, a persons sexuality and sexual tastes are a private matter. there are many deviants in the heterosexual arena. as to a child walking in on a woman/woman or man/man encounter, trust me, it's just as confusing to walk in on a man/woman when you are young. one thing to keep in mind, sex is something you do, it is not who you are. a RELATIONSHIP is based on love. children are taught that love is the most important thing. my kids have uncles who are gay, they love them just the same. they know that it doesn't make them different as a person, it just means they partake in different sexual activities. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 9:42 pm Post subject: | |||
I take it you've never heard of a Bonobo monkey? Or maybe the stump-tailed macaque? Just two of a number of animals that engage in homosexual behavior - a list that also includes animals like bottle-nosed dolphins, some sheep, penguins, rhesus monkeys... the list goes on. |
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Great ANALogy Slek Sorry but I forgot all about the Bonobo monkey...
Thats sick..... |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 10:16 pm Post subject: | |||
... which takes us back to my original point that the prevalent attitude that gay parents can "harm" children is nothing more than personal prejudice. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:13 am Post subject: | |||
Ever walk in on YOUR parents SearsAP? Did YOU find it disgusting or did YOU get a big thrill out of it? |
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I'm just going to end it because its obvious the majority rules on this topic here here.. But I'm sure if you were to get a poll on the general population "which is heterosexual" people today would find this wrong..
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