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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 6:59 pm Post subject: A Terrible Forward I received | |
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If there is only one thing you forward today.....let it be this!
http://shop.usps.com/images/02_eid37_d.jpg REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of PanAm Flight 103! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the military barracks in Saudi Arabia! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American Embassies in Africa! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE! REMEMBER the MUSLIM attack on the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001! REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks! Now the United States Postal Service REMEMBERS and HONORS the EID MUSLIM holiday season with a commemorative first class holiday postage stamp. REMEMBER to adamantly and vocally BOYCOTT this stamp when purchasing your stamps at the post office. To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those AMERICANS who died at the hands of those whom this stamp honors. REMEMBER to pass this along to every patriotic AMERICAN you know. So, if you are a muslim, they want to kill you! I hate people(especially racist, etc.) very, very much. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 9:42 pm Post subject: | |
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That is really disgusting. If I get it, the entire CC list is getting a nice rant.
What is it about America that Hate seems to be the national emotion? Under that flag of "everyone is welcome" there always seems to be an undercurrent of who is against who this week. Don't people have anything better to do then be anti-something? |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:56 pm Post subject: | |
After you ralized that it's such a terrible forward, why on earth would you want to post it. That's the same as spamming all of us with it, IMO. 
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 12:00 am Post subject: | |||
Just warning you before they try to infect you with the stupid 
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:02 am Post subject: | |
If you're so worried about the stamp and such, should southerners use pennies because it's got the head of you know who on it??? 
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:40 am Post subject: | |
| i don't think that every muslim was involved in these attacks. thats like blaming the entire white race or all of america for the unibomber. | |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:59 am Post subject: | |
| Of course not every Muslim was involved.....but does anyone deny that Muslim fundementalists did these things? Having the guts to say the truth rather than yield to the cowardice of political correctness is rare these days. | |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:15 am Post subject: | |||
What does it matter? |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:35 am Post subject: | |
| It matters quite a bit....do you deny we need to know who attacked us? Or are you one of thost who think we deserved to be attacked? | |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:18 am Post subject: | |||
And I've asked you "why" once already. Now I have to ask again: Why does it matter? Come on BG, back-up your opinion for a change. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:18 am Post subject: | |||
Of course it does.... it is the American way to need to place tradgedy with foreign race or religions to distance themselves from things they deem "evil". If a white, American, Christian Man had done these things, we wouldn't be so quick to judge Christianity on it's whole. People would be saying, "But there are many kinds... you can't judge our religion by this one sect!" Face it, the E-mail was a racist in alarmist's clothing. It reminds me of things people said to each other about the Japanese in WWII. Anytime we are attacked, we need a bad guy, and when we cannot try the person responsible, we put the whole race or religion on trial. Don't any of you know...or have close relationships with people of different faith? Esspecially Musilms? Has your perception of them changed since September 11th? Would you want them to see this forward? Last edited by Sadakolaffe on Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:37 am; edited 1 time in total |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:30 am Post subject: | |
| Honestly my perception has not changed a lot. The reason is because this has been brewing for years. There are people over seas resent what we have done in the past and are doing now. Your right though Americans like to have someone to blame. Make it more black and white. Heck think about the bible. If the new testament never came out painting a clear picture of good vs evil (a la the devil) christianity might not be as strong of a religion as it is today. Sometimes it makes me wonder..... | |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 3:06 pm Post subject: blaming | |
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Blaming every muslim for the attacks and wanting them to pay is the equivalent of blaming every white man for slavery and wanting them to pay.
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Why does it matter? There are people in the world that hate the US as we all know. It is not wrong to identify those that would hurt us. The fact is that Muslim extremeists attacked us. It was not Hindu extremeists or even Shinto ones. To state a fact is not racist. The vast majority of Muslims are peacefull people. But some twist thier religion in a lust for blood and hate. And yes there are some Christians that feel the same way. But there is a big difference between the two. If it would have been a Catholic hijacker who had flown those two planes into the towers, the pope would have been on TV the next day denouncing the acts as evil. After 9-11 there were no major Islamic clerics doing the same thing. Most of the Islamic world celebrated....what I am saying is this....we have to be aware of those people that teach this radical form of Islam, and keep an eye on them if we can. Is it spying? yep! Did you hear about the 9-11 commissions report? The FBI found out that muslim men were in flight training for large jets...but not learning how land them! just fly them....that was suspicious! But the info was just filed away.....these are the things we need to notice and investigate. That is why I believe it matters. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:06 pm Post subject: I disagree | |
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I disagree with your example Bodyguard. If it would have been catholic hijackers the pope would not have been on tv denouncing it. He wouldn't have said a word. Just like he hasn't said anything publicly about the catholic church child molestation scandal in the US.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:23 pm Post subject: | |
My turn to dis-agree.....the church sex scandel goes to the very core of the Catholic church...it would be easy to blame outside extremeists....a big difference between the two I think! 
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:25 pm Post subject: no | |
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So, if the hijackers were catholic priests and bishops then the pope wouldn't say a thing because it went to the very core of the church, but if the hijackers were regular catholics the pope would speak up loudly?
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I think so. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:41 pm Post subject: | |
| It is because it would be easier to denounce even bishops and such on a subject like a terror attack.....but harming children is a different matter....see my logic? | |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:46 pm Post subject: no | |
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No, harming children in mass numbers (as has taken place) is a crime against humanity only slightly lower than the destruction of the world trade center in my opinion.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:47 pm Post subject: | |||
No, it's more about politics and protecting your own. That's been alive and well as a policy in the Vatican long before the White House or the Senate were built. I nomine Christi ..., capisce? |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:52 pm Post subject: I disagree Kanaka | |
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I disagree with your assessment Kanaka. I don't think the lack of a denouncement is a plan at all.
I think the pope is so old he can barely hold his head up straight anymore, so speaking publicly on a controversial topic is not a good move for him. Unfortunately the church is not prepared for the demise of the pope and has no other public figure to speak on his behalf. I also don't believe there is any strong leadership within the Vatican besides the pope, and like I said, the pope has to keep those speaking engagements to a minimum. ICKIMORE |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:55 pm Post subject: | |
| OK OK we kind of got off topic here....my original point was that there was no mass movement of protest from the Islamic world after the attacks. There was mainly glee. | |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 5:59 pm Post subject: I agree | |
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I agree with your original intent Bodyguard. The hapiness as expressed in the streets throughout the middle east upon viewing the 9/11 disaster basically said all that needs to be said. That a large percentage of these folks aren't concerned with what is right and wrong in the world. That many of them believe that the end result justifies the means, and they believe the destruction of all that support Israel is a noble end result.
Note I said a "large percentage" when referring to the region, I was not attempting to lump them all into one large grouping. ICKIMORE |
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What is scary is that you can insert "Islam" for "Isreal" in your statement and you'd be talking about too many Americans. And here is a statistic: Nearly one in five people in the world today claims the faith of Islam. A diverse community of believers spans the globe. Over fifty countries have Muslim-majority populations, while other groups of believers are clustered in minority communities on nearly every continent. I don't remember seeing over 50 different countries dancing in the streets. What I do remember was that in some villages they were happy, while in others they were upset. This also depended on what news station you were tunned into that week. It comes down to points of view... they think they are justified in thier hate, we think we are justified in our hate. Our country just has a bit more money to spend, so we get "nifty" playing cards to sell on E-Bay and "Osama Sucks" t-shirts to wear. I guess that is the main difference... they dance in the streets at our grievences, we take our issues and turn them into commerce. |
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