POINTS POINTS POINTS WHERE HAVE THEY GONE<

Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 1037 Location: Formerly 3333

Ask him.

I am unaware of any stopage of the points system. Meaning..... I've heard nothing either way.

"Foots"

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:50 am Post subject:

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:06 am Post subject:

Oh my he would never admit to loosing any control over us. He loves it!! He does have some new control now though the surveys and stalking for the blue book. We love Sundays in our store no stalking day.

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 321

Lunch time can be either 30 minutes or 60 minutes based on local management decision. So that time will differ based on the store you are in.

ICKIMORE

Joined: 11 Jul 2003 Posts: 132 Location: Midwest, IN

our system is if you work 5 hours or more you get a 30 min lunch, if for some reason we worked a shift that was 10 hours we would take a 1 hour lunch....

If you don't take a lunch and you work over 5 hours... the computer takes it for you.

I remember in June still hearing the threat of points... don't do this you will get points, don't do that. I haven't heard anything else in July though, other then casual talk of if you punched out too early you would get points... stuff like that.

As far as people getting fired over points, we have a few who we know are over that point.... and are still around... so maybe they are just holding back on the points system right now.... we have a lot of part time people going back to school soon, leaving less coverage in the store... time to get some new people in.

Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 1037 Location: Formerly 3333

GURU..... I could take an hour for lunch if I wanted but I rarely have the time. Most days, I get a lunch to go and eat it at my desk while I work. Occasionally I'll sit in the cafeteria and eat it but rare is the day I'm there more than 20 minutes.

Can't speak for everyone at Hoffman but that's about all the time I have if I hope to stay caught up at work.

As for points..... no we're not on any points system.

FS

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:30 pm Post subject:

Footie
How would you feel if you were? I too if the floor is really busy do not go for lunch. If it is slow people have not even opened I will go for lunch. Sears did not really have to go with such a stupid policy. In our area their is so much road construction that a 1/2 hour drive has turned into somedays an hour and a half. I have ask them not to have me coming in any earlier, I usually work nites and would prefer to start at noon because of the road construction, since I ask my hours have changed to earlier hours. This is not fair. I think today I will ask not to work so many nites and then I will get the later hours.

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 140

Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Posts: 49

I agree with WE NEED A UNION.

That in order to feel good about your work place, it must be a compelling place to work, as our own management claim to have.

Some how that compellingness have been vanishing and is not even the workers fault, whose fault is it?

Amateur management is one, second is the workers who perceive amateurs and complain as sonnest management orders them to do something really stupid.

Amateurs retaliate using scare tactics such as points and if you don't like it there is the door.

Managent supports management no matter how stupid was the order.

Who supports workers when they are told, (You are the expert you should've known better.)

But is too late because the error is done and the customer is already bitching and management is about to do the next stupid thing, such as giving away the money back instead of fixing the problem because is easier that way.

So yes I feel the cramps in my belly every time I'm headed to work.

Not too long ago one of store management got so piss off and said.

Quote: I'm working with a bunch of stupids.

Luckely I was off that day but Later he apologized to me.

I said No apology needed because I agree with you sir!

Months later he had a heart attack..

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 1416 Location: Indianapolis, IN

Do people at Hoffman clock-in? Do they deduct lunch from your pay if you failed to take it? I read the policy on the intranet - it says you must take your lunch before entering into the 5th hour. So on days I work 5hrs and 15min., I have to take a lunch or they automatically deduct it from my pay. It was like pulling teeth when I inquired about the cut-off times. Like it was a big secret. I wonder how many associates do not realize that if they do not take their lunch, because of no floor coverage or someone not coming to relieve them, the hours they worked were automatically reduced by 30 minutes. The policy is not explained consistently. One person says this, the other person says that, and the 3rd person says go ask one person or the other person. Who is making money on the un-informed or the mis-informed? And what about the person who is asked to stay later than scheduled and slips into the 5th hour.

MrsDD

Joined: 11 Jul 2003 Posts: 132 Location: Midwest, IN

i have had that problem.... they asked me to stay an extra hour so then i slipped past the 5 hours... i told my manger this would happen and she said, ok you can take a 30 min break....
What was the point of me staying an extra hour to get 30 mins off.... they really only had me there an extra 30 mins.. or less ...

Apparently mangment can take this off from the computer though, if it does clock you off for the 30, tell someone and ask it to be removed.

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 321

We Need A Union, if you can not handle the most simple of your work related responsibilities on a consistent basis, then don't quit, get fired instead. Either way, if you can't show up for work on time the majority of the time, then you obviously can't complete your job responsibilities. Because the first order of business at any job is to arrive to work on time, and leave for work on time. It's not that hard, you've been held accountable for punctuality since you were in grade school, you should be expected to have it down by now.

Mrs DD, depends on the associate. There are hourly associates and there are salaried associates just as there are in the stores. Also just as in the stores, each group has a certain set of HR pay "rules". First and foremost, hourly associates clock in, salary associates do not, just like in the stores.

ICKIMORE

Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Posts: 270

quite a few people recently were told to shape up or ship out, but then come to find out that they didnt tell us that they took away the grace period of 6 minutes with the new time system, and people had many points because of it, the way i see it as long as i am at work and have the registers open before the doors are un locked in the morning im on time

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 1337 Location: The Collective

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 321

71worker, the way Sears sees it as long as you are there when your schedule says you are supposed to be there you are on time. Whether the doors are open or not means little.

When you were in 6th grade were you considered on time if you arrived just prior to the first class starting, or when homeroom attendance was taken prior to that?

ICKIMORE

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 260

on time for homeroom? this is way to funny......

I love the comment.

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 321

It's sad, but the example I used was to better explain how long every one of us has been expected to be punctual. How it is not Sears job to educate us further on the benefits of punctuality. If you can't handle the time you are scheduled, quit or get fired, simple as that. Everyone has an occasional emergency, but deviating from the scheduled time as a norm should get you fired. If you can't do it then go back to grade school to learn the finer points, don't blame Sears for your inadequacy.

ICKIMORE

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:25 am Post subject: Re: sad

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 260

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:09 am Post subject:

Ickimore go in one of the education sites and see if you can lecture someone. Really they would appreciate you more. Did I not read on a previous site that you left early without even asking management just other co workers. I agree if we are there before the store opens I am on time

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 321

You read that, you also read the part right before it, "before I had a clue...".

ICKIMORE

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 321

Low, unless you are there when the schedule tells you to be there, you are NOT on time. You can debate that all you like, but there is no logic to your side of the story other than the fact that you don't want to comply with the scheduled hours.

ICKIMORE

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:26 am Post subject:

Tell someone that cares. I am not paid to come in and stand their when their is no customers. Ok I am straight commisison paid to sell. The only reason they schedule us a half hour early is to bring our mitt pay down. I have taken enough of a cut in pay have you.

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 1337 Location: The Collective

The "only" reason? We now come in 15 min before we open. We open the registers, check stock do some light housekeeping and get ready for the day. Do you think someone else should do it?

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 321

Then Low, you should be fired.

ICKIMORE

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