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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:57 am Post subject:
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I've always been interested in this show, but haven't yet watched it. Unfortunately here in Canada, all we get is a censored version on of our channels.
Might have to look into renting some of the seasons on DVD.
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Yes, rent the DVD's. Well worth it. ~GoodFella
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:27 am Post subject:
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I've always been interested in this show, but haven't yet watched it. Unfortunately here in Canada, all we get is a censored version on of our channels.
Might have to look into renting some of the seasons on DVD. |
Shit, just found this. Watch em all in a row online style for FREE on this site.
http://www.watchtvsitcoms.com/sopranos.php
Looks like no spyware or any of that crap on this site too.
PS, if you don't want to watch em all start with #37 "Pinebarrens". The only freestanding one of the bunch.
http://www.watchtvsitcoms.com/Sopranos/S03E11.php
Trust me on this. ~GoodFella
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The last show. Well in one word brilliant. My opinion only of course.
HBO has for now shut down all video from this on Youtube but I'm sure in a few days it will be back.
Brain Williams spin on the last show. I don't know if you know that he is as big a fan as me. He is part of The Sopranos blogs too.
The NBC news tonight. The only way I can find any video about the end. Like I said HBO has shut down all this on Youtube.
http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=43e61680-74e2-44e6-8670-36cb9618979f&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&t=c24&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/&fg=
Alan Sepinwall. The guy that best understands on the end of this.
http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/sepinwall/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-0/1181536338249770.xml&coll=1
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As the sounds of Steve Perry wailing on "Don't Stop Believing" filled the soundtrack, Tony kept eyeing the door and the other patrons as first Carmela, then A.J. arrived, while we spent an interminable amount of time watching Meadow double park. The camera kept focusing on a shady-looking character at the bar with more than a passing resemblance to the late Eugene Pontecorvo (down to the Member's Only jacket) who was studying Tony, but then his advance on Tony turned out to be a trip to the men's room. Meadow finally parked, dashed towards Holsten's, the camera cut back to Tony in close-up looking at something, Perry sang the words "Don't stop," and...
... nothing. No hint of whether Tony was looking at Meadow or something else entirely (perhaps the feds coming to arrest him after Carlo Gervasi apparently flipped), no music of any kind, just a fast cut to black and then the closing credits playing out in complete silence.
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Yet by episode's end, A.J. had abandoned his newfound morality in favor of a shiny BMW, a job as the "development executive" for Little Carmine's movie company and his parents' promise of his own nightclub to follow.
From the start, Chase has used "The Sopranos" as an indictment of modern American values and how, time after time, we all sacrifice principle in favor of self-interest. Maybe A.J. had achieved enlightenment or maybe not. But Tony and Carmela couldn't have their little boy risking his own life in the military (they wanted him to get the discipline without the risk), so they anesthetized him back into the materialistic lifestyle they understand so well. This is what America makes today, Chase seemed to be saying: permissive, selfish parents and kids who mimic them.
Back to that final scene. Without it, we have a completely reasonable finale, one that provides closure on enough plot threads (the war with New York ends, Paulie is promoted to the captaincy of the Family's lucrative construction business, A.J. finds new direction, etc.) that the few left open (notably whether Carlo flipped and what that means, legally, for Tony) don't particularly sting. It's the "life goes on" ending I'd been speculating on for months.
But then, but then, but then ... then Chase has to do what he loves to do more than any other man in show business: completely mess with his viewers' expectations (and their heads). I don't consider it a cliffhanger, something to set up a movie, as I doubt there will ever be a movie (and if there is, it'll be set in the past). He did it because he hates the conventions of TV series narrative in general, and putting a bow on things in particular.
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A quick David Chase interview by Alan.
http://blog.nj.com/alltv/2007/06/david_chase_speaks.html
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"I have no interest in explaining, defending, reinterpreting, or adding to what is there," he says of the final scene.
"No one was trying to be audacious, honest to god," he adds. "We did what we thought we had to do. No one was trying to blow people's minds, or thinking, 'Wow, this'll (tick) them off.' People get the impression that you're trying to (mess) with them and it's not true. You're trying to entertain them."
In that scene, mob boss Tony Soprano waited at a Bloomfield ice cream parlor for his family to arrive, one by one. What was a seemingly benign family outing was shot and cut as the preamble to a tragedy, with Tony suspiciously eyeing one patron after another, the camera dwelling a little too long on Meadow's parallel parking and a man in a Members Only jacket's walk to the men's room. Just as the tension had been ratched up to unbearable levels, the series cut to black in mid-scene (and mid song) with no resolution.
"Anybody who wants to watch it, it's all there," says Chase, 61, who based the series in general (and Tony's relationship with mother Livia specifically) on his North Caldwell childhood.
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Like I said the ending was brilliant. ~GoodFella
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It had to happen, right?
James Gandolfini Shot By Closure-Seeking Fan
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| NEW YORK—Actor James Gandolfini, best known for his portrayal of mob kingpin Tony Soprano on the hit HBO show The Sopranos, was shot to death Tuesday in a Greenwich Village restaurant by a fan unable to accept the open-ended conclusion of the series finale that aired earlier this month. |
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| "I couldn't let it just hang," Bowen told police in a post-arrest confession released to the media. "Eight years of my life, and a f***ing artsy cut to black? It was eating me up inside." |
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