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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: Immigration raid spurs calls for action against employers | |||
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By DAVID PITT
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: Immigration raid spurs calls for action against employer | |||
Maybe. But most people would find the money and prison space for the employers. Me, for one. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: | |
| I'd have no problem with that. It's always bothered me when it takes two people to make a crime but only the poorest and least powerful get in trouble over it. | |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: | |
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deport the illegals and arrest those who knowingly* hire them
* and create an employer accessible database that employers can access to see who they are really hiring |
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Ha ha. You're just trying to be funny again, right? Or at best, it's more of that biting sarcasm of yours, right? Just in case it's not: So, we're going to place all of the millions of workers in the US in a data base so that any potential employer can find out if they're legal or not with a couple of keystrokes? Lotsa luck. I hear the government has building book on millions of potential "terrorists" in the country for about eight years and they're only up to a million or so so far. Maybe they could include each person's employment eligibility status and then sell the lists like DMV used to do the driver's license lists? It would be a start. Actually it's funny that anyone would even infer that these employers, most of whom hire through self made entrepreneurs called labor contractors, don't KNOW they're hiring illegal aliens. That's why there is an entire industry built around supplying manual laborers for menial jobs these days, at least here in California. Come on out some time and I'll show you some half million plus dollar homes bought with money made by supplying illegal aliens for California's corporate agricultural industries. These companies often have tens of thousands of employees in the fields depending on the season, and there's no record or indication, other than a monthly payment to some contractor that these individual people are even on the employer's property, let alone anything with their names and immigration status on it. But we need a database so these employers will KNOW they using illegal labor? Or more to the point, to prevent them FROM using illegal labor? 
Maybe just requiring each potential employee to have to go through a simple hiring process and be vetted by the company's HR department instead of contracting with a laborlord to supply X number of bodies for X number of dollars, no questions asked, might go a ways toward solving the problem, ya think? Might be a tad inconvenient to actually go through the process with each person and ask to actually SEE their green card but it might keep you out of trouble later too and it wouldn't cost near as much or take near as much time as indexing the private information of 60 million or so people in some damned database somewhere. |
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Ha ha. You're just trying to be funny again, right? Or at best, it's more of that biting sarcasm of yours, right?
actually, i'm serious. if we can build a database that holds the info and pic of every state driver's license, Social Security should be able to do the same then the employer can compare the applicant and info to the database, and if they don't match up, call the INS and have REAL penalties for knowingly hiring illegals... the database would eliminate the 'oh, he lied' defense |
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