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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: shortest time | |
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whats the shortest time youve worked at sears?
im planning on quitting after my last paycheck on black fridday that would make it maybe about two months since i applied in oct anyone care to top that? 
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:30 am Post subject: | |
| I've seen people quit before they're done training. Hell, I've seen people only show up for 2 shifts. | |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:41 am Post subject: | |
| would people not showing for orientation count as a quick leave or just not starting? | |
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Sad, but I've seen that a lot also. I've been introduced by my manager to people who she hired and never seen them again. I contribute it to a couple of things, people know they won't pass the drug test, they see all the computer training that they have to do and don't want to go through all that for the pay, or they simply look around and know they are in trouble before they even start. I hear managers talk to newbees. They talk as though they are in an elite club. I'm sure the newbee comes out and says "You've got to be kidding me." I've also laughed at newbees when they do come to the floor and start asking about the pay and how the manager told them they would make somewhere around 15 dollars an hour. I'm sure I scared a few off, but they need to know the truth before they get sucked in. Is it possible to make 15 an hour? Sure. Just not every hour you work there. I tell people that 9-12 dollars an hour is a more realistic figure. The only people I know that can make 15 dollars an hour regulary are the appliance people. That could be another reason people leave early, the manager lies to people about what the pay is. Lie might be too great a word, exaggerate fits better. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: | |
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We used to have people leave usually after the first schedule or paycheck was issued. They were lied to about the amount of hours they would get and pay. All were part time and many expressed that the carrot of fulltime was given to them. If they did make it to the first paycheck..anyone in the last two years in my store never were paid for orientation. Yes, it is illegal but we do not have the most ethical people at my store or regional level. They do not have clock numbers til the end of the day but spend between 4-6 hours filling out paper work, computer training and such. One of the older managers (who left because of the madness) caught it and reamed HR but she still did it. Another reason they leave is once the computer training is over they are brought to the floor and left to sink or swim. They do not know what they are doing and most just quit showing up. It also leaves a bad taste in their mouths because you never see them again..not just as an employee but also not as a customer.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: | |
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This may not technically count, but I almost walked off the job while I was waiting for HR and my old automotive manager get their shit together so I could do my transfer to a different store.
I set an appointment one day to come in, sign paperwork, get a schedule, etc. When I come in, the person I was supposed to speak with wasn't even working that day so I sat in the "lobby" for 40 minutes waiting for them to find someone I CAN speak with. On top of that, my old store fudged up some paperwork, never took me off their payroll, so my ben. rate plummeted as a result. Of course, it took almost an hour of paper shuffling for the new store to figure that one out. I was about ready to walk just so I could remain civil and not blow a gasket with these incompetent nincompoops. Anyway, I relented and ended up working at that store for a year. In that time, my manager would schedule appointments for NEW applicants to be interviewed and then never show up for them. It was so much fun trying to explain to a new applicant "Sorry it looks like he STILL isn't here. Would you like to leave your name and number?"... It became a regular script as it happened so often. Anyway, my new job pays more then the average Sears Auto Center manager job. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject: | |
| Once the other employees tell them that there are no raises or promotions and that yes - 1 or 2 - 3 hour shifts are the norm - most leave quickly - job doesn't even pay for their gas. People who are looking for work usually have applications in elsewhere - and just move on to some place that will at least give them a longer shift. Then you have the hostile managers and some old time employees who don't want to train newbies while their own hours are being cut. I am even considering leaving for a seasonal job - the backbiting nastiness seems to be getting worse IMO. | |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: | |
| When our CAC lead left the store hired a total random nobody to replace her. She didn't even show up for her first day. I'd say that pretty much sets the record. | |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:24 am Post subject: 4 hours live | |
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No Shows-common problem.
But the shortest time going live on commission after the alledged trainig-2 hours.After a couple of weeks of e-learning and observing on the floor.The guy still wasn't comfortable with the register,had a simple merchandise pick-up.He asked everyone for help out loud infront of his customer.Everybody said as soon as we're finished with our customers or what we were doing-everyone legitimately busy.One guy even checked on him about every 30 secs or so.He got tired of waiting for full fledged hand holding and DEMANDED someone help him IMMEDIATELY.No one was free,walked off the floor,told HR he was quiting,even had a quick conversation with the ASM. That being said the ASM didn't do squat to train him relying on the company training-HA!.The guy also complained about the lack of confidentiality including sales flashes and store and employee numbers posted on bulliten boards(he was actually right about that but most don't even THINK about what goes on at Sears anyway).He came in at 12 that day and was gone by 2:00,his first day on commission. Also had an applicant caught shoplifting the day before he was due to start. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: Re: 4 hours live | |||
I never minded helping the new people. The quicker they learn, the quicker I get them out of my hair. And what you posted is what I try to tell management when they tell me help so and so, have respect for me and my trying to make a living. A lot of times I was also told to help a newbee when I'm in the middle of a sale myself. It's like my sale is inmaterial and it's important to help the new guy. Everyone needs to learn, I know that, but I shouldn't have to jeapordize my paycheck for it. Training on the floor is a team effort in my opinion and that includes management. It's a manager's job to manage. And on floor training is part of the job. Could you imagine a baseball manager leaving all the on field decisions to the players? Yes, veteran players take rookies under thier wing and give advice on what to do, and that's what I do. But I see management expecting me to properly train this person. Managers have no problem spending hours observing us when we are doing a pitch on credit or selling a PA and have no problem cutting us down because we didn't use the right terminology. But God forbid they show a newbee how to ring a transaction properly. Too busy for that. If they don't know how to ring, who needs the training? |
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