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Nofsdad
Joined: 06 Jul 2003
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Location: Central CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: Media ignores the working stiff
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As most of you know... 'ceptin maybe ol' Quagmire... I've been pushing the idea for several years now that if the media really wants to know what's wrong with a company they need to talk to the workers in that company, the people who are the direct connection between a company and it's customers. I've stated that often in my contacts with Ms. Jones and Ms. Guy and others and left comments to that effect, including links to this forum on dozens of news articles where comments are allowed.
We continue to be ignored, even though many times we have been six months to a year... sometimes even more... ahead of the media in figuring out what's going on. Looks like it 's not just us either.
BARONS OF MASS MEDIA IGNORE THE MASSES
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The MBAs and corporate bean counters who run America’s newspapers these days blame the internet, fickle advertisers, America’s education system, unions, and even you and me – aka, the “stupid public” – for the ongoing decline in readership. There is, however, one group they steadfastly refuse to blame: Themselves.
Thumb through the typical newspaper and chances are you won’t find yourself in it. Not you personally, but working stiffs, regular folks, the hoi polloi. News corporations are in the business of mass media, yet they virtually ignore the masses, which just might be the one reason the masses increasingly ignore newspapers. |
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Last year, the Washington Post ran a front page story asking why the public is “gloomier than the economy.” Not a single worker was interviewed! No mention was made about declining wages, lack of health care coverage, busted pension plans, or other real reasons that real people might feel a bit gloomy.
Also last year, The New York Times printed a story about the strength of the job market. Corporate representatives were interviewed – but not a single worker. Likewise, the Wall Street Journal did a piece decrying the fact that the promotion of free-trade deals keeps meeting “stiff resistance from organized labor.” Not a single worker or labor rep was asked to explain their viewpoint. |
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| The real bias of the media is not the left or right, but to the thin strata of economic elites at the top of our society. So it's no wonder that the workaday majority is seeking other sources of news. |
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LuisLuis
Joined: 23 May 2008
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject:
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I have said for years that as soon as that trade agreement thing was signed - the USA was going to go into a depression - we sent our jobs overseas - other countries even grow most of our food - we are dependent on oil from overseas - the only way to make this country strong again is to bring back companies and jobs to this country. But what is happening is other countries are coming here to buy up factories and our farm land. The USA needs to take care of us.
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Nofsdad
Joined: 06 Jul 2003
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject:
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NOBODY needs to take care of us. All they need to do is bring us back to the front as a producing nation instead of a consuming one... we'll take care of ourselves then, just like we were doing before the globalists took over and sold the country out from under us.
That isn't going to happen until WE take back our government.
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Snurbble
Joined: 10 Aug 2008
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject:
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NOBODY needs to take care of us. All they need to do is bring us back to the front as a producing nation instead of a consuming one... we'll take care of ourselves then, just like we were doing before the globalists took over and sold the country out from under us.
That isn't going to happen until WE take back our government. |
That genie is out of the bottle. O'Bomba calims he's going to "create jobs." How? Our manufacturing base is gone. This isn't like an Andy Hardy movie where the kids go into a shut down factory and start it up. The factories are GONE. They've been turned into office parks and shopping centers.
The MBAs have forgotten one of the basic premises of economics, you have to have customers who can buy your products. It is a symbiotic system. The steelworker gets paid to make steel, so he goes out to buy a fridge which gives money to the guys making the fridge and the guy selling the fridge so they both go buy cars which puts money into the pocket of the steel worker and the auto worker who then go on vacation and tip the waiter who then goes . . .
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ratmaze
Joined: 05 Dec 2007
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject:
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NOBODY needs to take care of us. All they need to do is bring us back to the front as a producing nation instead of a consuming one... we'll take care of ourselves then, just like we were doing before the globalists took over and sold the country out from under us.
That isn't going to happen until WE take back our government. |
That genie is out of the bottle. O'Bomba calims he's going to "create jobs." How? Our manufacturing base is gone. This isn't like an Andy Hardy movie where the kids go into a shut down factory and start it up. The factories are GONE. They've been turned into office parks and shopping centers.
The MBAs have forgotten one of the basic premises of economics, you have to have customers who can buy your products. It is a symbiotic system. The steelworker gets paid to make steel, so he goes out to buy a fridge which gives money to the guys making the fridge and the guy selling the fridge so they both go buy cars which puts money into the pocket of the steel worker and the auto worker who then go on vacation and tip the waiter who then goes . . . |
I agree however it's the other countries we are lining their pockets. When have you heard lately Made IN America? Look how many companies are owned by other countries.
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Snurbble
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject:
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That's what happens when you rebuild the world after a war, they get the money to buy your companies. However, the problem isn't the foreign ownership, it's short sighted management.
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quagmire
Joined: 30 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: working stiff
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I WILL SAY THIS AND POST FOR ALL TO READ I ABSOLUTY AGREE WITH ALL OF THIS YES NOFSDAD I AGREE FINALLY TOO BAD YOU MENTION ME AT THE BEGINNING BUT I DO AGREE AND AM HUMBLE ENOUGH TO SAY SO
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MastaShake1108
Joined: 11 Apr 2007
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:53 am Post subject:
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| Snurbble wrote: |
| Nofsdad wrote: |
NOBODY needs to take care of us. All they need to do is bring us back to the front as a producing nation instead of a consuming one... we'll take care of ourselves then, just like we were doing before the globalists took over and sold the country out from under us.
That isn't going to happen until WE take back our government. |
That genie is out of the bottle. O'Bomba calims he's going to "create jobs." How? Our manufacturing base is gone. This isn't like an Andy Hardy movie where the kids go into a shut down factory and start it up. The factories are GONE. They've been turned into office parks and shopping centers.
The MBAs have forgotten one of the basic premises of economics, you have to have customers who can buy your products. It is a symbiotic system. The steelworker gets paid to make steel, so he goes out to buy a fridge which gives money to the guys making the fridge and the guy selling the fridge so they both go buy cars which puts money into the pocket of the steel worker and the auto worker who then go on vacation and tip the waiter who then goes . . . |
There needs to be new, clean manufacturing jobs, ones that let's suppose invest in green techonology. These are high paying jobs creating you know, solar panels, energy efficient cars, etc.
The consumer, realizing the money they save in let's say, a ''green'' car, buy the car.
Etc...
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terminator
Joined: 19 Oct 2003
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:02 am Post subject:
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That genie is out of the bottle. O'Bomba calims he's going to "create jobs." How? Our manufacturing base is gone. This isn't like an Andy Hardy movie where the kids go into a shut down factory and start it up. The factories are GONE. They've been turned into office parks and shopping centers.
The MBAs have forgotten one of the basic premises of economics, you have to have customers who can buy your products. It is a symbiotic system. The steelworker gets paid to make steel, so he goes out to buy a fridge which gives money to the guys making the fridge and the guy selling the fridge so they both go buy cars which puts money into the pocket of the steel worker and the auto worker who then go on vacation and tip the waiter who then goes . . .
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I think it now goes.....The McDonalds hamburger flipper buys a slice of Pizza from the Pizza flipper who buys a pair of sneakers from the shoe store cashier who buys a beer from the bar tender who buys a joint from the dope dealer who buys a car from the car sales person who buys prozac from the pharmacist who buys a condo from the banker who buys a yacht from the CEO who stole his money from everyone else just mentioned! 
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