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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject: Schedules | |
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What are the rules/laws concerning schedules?
Let's say for instance, I work M-F 6AM to 2:30PM and I am FT, and my schedule for that week shows 39 total hours. So, Thursday quittin time comes and I am already at 40 hours, can the store make me come into work on Friday because I'm scheduled, or can I claim that I wish not to come in because I have already achieved my 39 hour week? Last I knew, OT was voluntary, which would make Friday an optional day to come in. |
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: | |
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Actually, OT is voluntary and you have already accepted that OT. You don't have the option of not coming into work on Friday. You are scheduled to work on Friday. Knowing this you have already accepted the OT by working up to or past your scheduled work shift during the week. You have to show up.
You may want to remind them that your entire shift on Friday will be OT. Let them decide if their payroll can handle it this week. |
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| Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: | |
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How are you already at 39 or 40 hours? Factoring out a hour for lunch your shift is only 7.5 hours a day so that would be 37.5 hours in a week.
OT is voluntary but that doesn't mean you accepted that OT. Generally hr would send out emails or say who went over a daily amount of time. Maybe something slided away. So if you are on paper supposed to be working 7.5 hours a day how did you end up doing 9.75 hours a day...that's on average more than two hours over a day...I've gone over a bit in the past but not that much...certainly not that much four days in a row... |
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:38 am Post subject: | |
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Actually, if he's a "Lowesdriver" as his moniker suggests, it's pretty easy to go over 40 (or 39) hours in a week. Driver's don't have complete control over the hours they work. They're out on the road and don't know how long it'll take to get deliveries done on any given day due to traffic congestion, etc. So often they'll leave the store by 7am (especially if they're the Moffet driver and have to get to contractor work sites), and not get back to the store until 4pm or later. There's no SM who would want a driver to come back early on a Thursday (or Friday) because they're close to 39 hours, with deliveries on the truck that they wouldn't be able to make that day after promising customers a firm day for delivery.
Since they're on the road and can't punch in/out for lunch, our store allows a daily "mis-punch" of 30 minutes (not an hour) for lunch. So it's easy to see come Thursday why they might be approaching 39 hours. And Lowesdriver as to your question, unless you answered the question on your employment application "no, I don't want to work overtime" they probably can make you come in after your accumulated 39 or 40 hours. |
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: | |
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boardwalkties nailed it on the head. It is very possible to get close to OT before the week is over with. When I first started, I was coming in on days off to help out and I was getting on avg 55 hour weeks.
But nowadays, its BS. To me, OT means nothing to me. Why should I stay 2-4 hours past the end of my shift with no incenitives? Why can't Lowes offer something else on top of that? So, nowadays when the end of my shift comes to an end, I'm out the door. Even if it means there are still 2 or 3 deliveries to make. Why shouldn't I go home at the end like everyone else in the store does? I mean, I DO HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF LOWES! |
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: | |||
We used to have a Moffett driver who routinely got 45-55 hour weeks. Then one day HRM and the SM got on their high horses and called him in to complain about his OT, which he never minded working. So ... one Friday he had like 3 or 4 deliveries to make. Loaded up his truck and left the store at 7am. Made one delivery and then came back to the store at around 10am with the others still on the truck, punched out and went home because he was at 40 hours. SM then started getting calls ... "where's my concrete and drywall," etc. SM came down to commercial. "Where's ---?" He went home, said you told him not to work OT. The SM went ballistic. Fortunately, the delivery manager was in the store, had a CDL license and made the rest of the deliveries for that day. Nobody ever complained about his OT again. |
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: | |
Ha ha ha! That was GREAT!!! 
I wish the rest of our team was like that, then maybe they will hire more people to drive for us. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject: | |||
what exactly do you want Lowe's to offer??? |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:12 pm Post subject: | |
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I didn't notice your sn. However the amounts of OT with deliveries is one of the primary reasons why it's being more outsourced to the delivery group. Granted they don't deliver lumber or do ICB's.
I've been on deliveries a few times so I know what it's like...including a long day that I ended up coming back at 1130pm or so! I'd check state laws though. In mine there's no such thing as mandatory OT. If you want to work it that's fine but if not they can't force you. If there's no contract then there's no real agreement. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject: | |
| You knew when you accepted the job in deliveries that there would be days without lunches and OT for the day/week. If you don't want to be in that department step out and let someone who wants to work and earn OT pay in for the ride. In this economy there are many people who are out of work and you're complaining about too much. | |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: | |
Sorry skibunny  , but nowhere in my current job description does it say that I have to do OT, or work past my scheduled shift, nor does it say that my lunches are not required. Boy, if it did, I'm sure NY would have a field day with Lowes.
And nowhere did I say that I didn't want to work, nor did I say that I did not want OT, you failed to read my question correctly. I was simply asking if it was voluntary to come in though I had already achieved my scheduled week hours a day early. 
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| Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:32 pm Post subject: | |||
Same in NY. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:19 am Post subject: | |
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The real problem I saw with deliveries wasn't so much with the company. Those things can change (put lights on the back of the truck...checklists to make sure there's pallet jacks and moffets etc)
But it's that so many of the customers have no grasp as to the fact that they are getting something big, heavy and bulky moved into where they live. One delivery I was on we removed the old fridge...well we tried at first. This old guy told us AFTER moving this to one door (I think it came though that one (some other one). OK...ok well that certainly wasted time. Other times customers wanted things on a 2nd floor dispite the fact that it cost more per piece...having a lack of light and closed doors doesn't help either Some have asked for things physically impossible. One wanted a grill delivered already assembled on top of a deck. I ask if it was something that could go out the sliding door...he said no for some reason. Can we simply go to the deck and assemble it there? no..ok fine the answer is no. There's no safe way to have someone lift a grill and the other hold it while walking up steps. The wings would probably get in the way of peoples face and prevent it from safely being moved. Nearly reminded me of some install that was cancelled supposedly working on a cathedral ceiling, in the winter, near a cliff, by the ocean..sorry can't find someone for that one. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:32 am Post subject: | |||||||
INCENTIVES! No one else in the store works more hours than we do(hourly paid people anyway). If someone calls off, someone else gets called in. And for what? Ooooh, OT. Big deal. The state requires it anyway. Why doesn't deep million dollar pocket lowes reach in and give a little more. How about a buck or two more per hour once you pass the end of your shift? Get called in on your day off? How about $25 just for coming in? Or, the sales people can pay attention when the delivery manager says NO MORE FOR TOMORROW, we have LIMITED STAFF AS IT IS. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject: | |
| I think even in a normal economy there are plenty of people who would be willing to work for even the remotest chance at OT. and you want more then 'just' OT? Since a majority of us never see a penny of OT, because we're told to take longer lunches, or leave early (but never on a friday), we just don't understand *why* you are complaining. If you don't like the additional hours, ask to be dropped to part time. or transfer to within the store. | |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: | |
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Can't really say I recall complaining about long hours. I simply complained about long hours with no benefits.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: | |||
The benefit is that you are receiving 1 1/2 times your hourly pay. Where is the lack of benefit? Perhaps I am just not seeing the problem with receiving one and a half times your hourly pay just for doing your day to day job. If you're tired and don't want to work the OT that a delivery driver receives you could try to get into a different department where the opportunity for OT is remote. If you want to remain in deliveries and just are tired of having your 39-40 hours in after only working 4 days try discussing it with your store management. I'm going to bet that unless you have a CDL they'd be more than happy to replace you with just about anyone in the store who wouldn't complain about working over their scheduled 39 hours. If you just needed to vent perhaps you could just say that you need to vent. I remember the original post you wanted to know if you could just not show up for your scheduled shift on Friday. At Lowe's often there are various positions that have anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours OT on Thursday. We are each told that we have to take a longer lunch or sometimes come in later but that OT isn't to be "burned" on Fridays. IF that were an option many people would chose to work longer hours so that they could get off early on Fridays. There have been times where I've been told that due to "coverage" I had to take a 2-3 hour lunch on a certain day and couldn't just leave early that night or even on Friday. |
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