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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: hiring process for minimun wage jobs | |
It amazes how many minimum wage employers seek the totally dedicated,fully devoted 'yes' employee for minimum wage,little or no benefits and demeaning management.Currently at Sears they have full fledged banners,signs and ads saying things like 'upto 20$ an hour',employee recruitment awards and kiosk with computerized testing.If you apply and succeed at filling out the '... highly sofisticated computer based application... ' you must wait,pray and gamble that the manager who supposed to interview you will even greet you even though in the building then you must 'pass' a couple more interviews and test all for a 6.50 / hour part-time job.It's not brain surgergy. 
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: | |
| I especially love how Lowe's and Target and some others make you take that 20-30 minute long "personality quiz" when you put in an application. WTF is that all about? | |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:22 am Post subject: | |||
Tell me about it...I remember I had to take one of those personality tests when I applied at Sears...totally assinine...these jobs are not rocket science jobs for God's sake...with some of the employees we have now, I'm surprised they even passed the tests... |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: | |
| Sears does that too? I didn't know that, of course back when I applied (in 2000) they still had paper applications! | |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: background checks | |
| Too me when in need I would just emphasize a criminal background check,check some the application information and ask the manager that will be USING them if they want them or not.But a recent trend of creating the ' specialist ' entry level job title makes it even more difficult to hire especially with computers analyzing the application.Even more puzzling is that I see companies go up to a year without hiring or finding the 'perfect' candidate and yet refuse to give things out like raises,overtime or bonuses to the existing short staff or they get back to an applicant MONTHS after they applied and wonder why they don't want the job now.All this for what is normally a high-turn over job anyway-ooops,then they'll have to admit they won't pay squat. | |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: test coaching | |
| I've seen people 'coached' on how to answer personality and pyschological test in many different industries which the management people have got to know is going on.Test and HR software companies job security I guess. | |
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Reminds me of the Civil Service promotional exams in my old outfit. Many many times during my last 10-15 years with the department, I used to see the chiefs holding private special little training classes and coaching sessions strictly for those in whom they "had a special interest" and wanted to make sure got the goodies.
Not on firefighting, not on supervison, not even on management but solely on how to pass a written promotional exam with the minimum score and then be able to "sell" yourself to the oral examination panel. So even in an organization that had strict and rigid rules on paper in regard to promotions and raises, it still wasn't what you knew but who you bl... er, knew in about 8 out of 10 cases. Probably a major reason why we had the Great Fire Debacle and Cathouse Massacre out here in 2003. 
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: | |
These things are a total waste of time but a lot of stores think highly of them
Costco Test: Page 1 of 26 You have confidence in yourself Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You would rather not get involved in other people's problems Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You are always cheerful Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You get mad at yourself when you make mistakes Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You would rather work on a team than by yourself Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 2 of 26 You do not fake being polite Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Many people cannot be trusted Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree It bothers you a long time when someone is unfair to you Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You are not afraid to tell someone off Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You try to sense what others are thinking and feeling Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 3 of 26 You can wait patiently for a long time Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You say whatever is on your mind Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Your moods are steady from day to day Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You don't care if you offend people Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree When someone treats you badly, you ignore it Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 4 of 26 It is easy for you to feel what others are feeling Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You are unsure of what to say when you meet someone Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Your friends and family approve of the things you do Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You keep calm when under stress Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You like to talk a lot Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 5 of 26 You don't worry about making a good impression Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You like to be alone Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You don't care what people think of you Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You are a friendly person Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You swear when you argue Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly Page 6 of 26 You love to listen to people talk about themselves Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You get angry more often than nervous Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You do not like small talk Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You always try not to hurt people's feelings Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree There are some people you really can't stand Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 7 of 26 People who talk all the time are annoying Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You are unsure of yourself with new people Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Slow-moving people make you impatient Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree When your friends need help, they call you first Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Other people's feelings are their own business Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You are a fairly private person Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You change from feeling happy to sad without any reason Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You criticize people when they deserve it Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You love to be with people Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You chat with people you don't know Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 9 of 26 You ignore people you don't like Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You have no big worries Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You do not like to meet new people Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You like to be in the middle of a big crowd Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree People's feelings are sometimes hurt by what you say Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 10 of 26 You agree with people more than you argue Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree When people make mistakes, you correct them Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree It's fun to go out to events with big crowds Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You know when someone is in a bad mood, even if they don't show it Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You could not deal with difficult people all day Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 11 of 26 You are always careful not to offend people Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You have always been well-behaved Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You deserve to be better off than you are Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You criticize people when they deserve it Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You'd rather be cautious than risky Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 12 of 26 It is usually your own fault when something goes wrong Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Someone else usually causes your problems Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You got mostly good grades in high school Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree At the end of a hard day, you prefer to be alone Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree It seems like when one thing goes wrong, other things do, too Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 13 of 26 You had nearly perfect attendance in your past jobs Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You are almost always in good spirits Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Even when you feel down, you work hard at your job or schoolwork Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You do not do anything reckless Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree It is hard to feel optimistic all of the time Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 14 of 26 You usually put others' needs first, before you worry about yourself Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You have no big regrets about your past Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You can usually tell when something bad is about to happen Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You've had good reason to feel fed-up with some job you've had Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You give direct criticism when you need to Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 15 of 26 When working on something difficult, you take frequent breaks Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You wonder if your hard work will ever pay off Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You get started on your work right away when you arrive Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree No one thinks that you are unfriendly or cold with people Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Your behavior gets out of control at times Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 16 of 26 You were absent very few days from high school Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree It is important for you to have the respect of your friends Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You show it when you are in a bad mood Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You make sure that you get all that you deserve Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You were treated fairly in your past jobs Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 17 of 26 You get a lot of work done in a short time Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You like to take risks Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree When someone bothers you, you tell them off Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You've had more than your share of bad luck Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You think a lot about things that could go wrong Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 18 of 26 You deserve to have things easier than they have been Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You often tell some of the truth, but not all of it Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You finish everything you start Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You prefer to do things fast so they get done, rather than be careful and slow Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Sometimes you purposely forget to do what you'd promised Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 19 of 26 You think a lot about the worries and stresses you have Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree When you need to, you take it easy at work Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You always feel hopeful about your future Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You've never been in serious trouble Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Unfortunately, many companies treat their employees badly Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 20 of 26 You have a positive outlook about everything Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You are good at understanding how people feel Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You don't care if people like what you do Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You like to stir up excitement when you are bored Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree There were a lot of things in your past jobs you did not like Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 21 of 26 You sometimes pretend to be sick to get out of doing something Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You have had good bosses in your jobs Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You are too busy to always follow all the rules Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You stay home from work or school when you feel a little sick Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree It matters a lot what other people think of you Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 22 of 26 When you're upset, it's hard to get much done Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You have never taken unfair advantage of someone Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Sometimes you have to lie to someone to get what you need Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You pay close attention to people's feelings Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You are always on time for work or school Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 23 of 26 You don't believe a lot of what people say Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You get enough credit for what you do Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You look back and feel good about things you've done Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You help people a lot Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree At times, it is hard to keep your mind on what you are doing Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 24 of 26 You've had feelings of bitterness about some job you've had Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You don't complain when you have to obey a lot of rules Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree When someone hurts you, you think of ways to get even Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You have always had good behavior in school or work Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You are somewhat of a thrill-seeker Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 25 of 26 You are careful about everything you do Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You have done your share of troublemaking Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You seldom notice people's moods or feelings Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree It sometimes seems like everyone is against you Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You made few or no friends in your jobs Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree Page 26 of 26 You've been the victim of some bad situations Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You quickly forget it when you have done poorly at something Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree At times, something goes wrong and you feel fed-up with everything Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree You do some risky things to impress your friends Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree At times, you feel cut off from any friends Strongly disagree Disagree Agree Strongly agree |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: heard about that test elsewhere | |
| This test is the perfect example of how self perpetuating things have become in the HR INDUSTRY.Again is this process worth it when companies go 6 months to a year trying to fill positions.This is another example of the YES mentality or CULTure training currently being implemented at Sears.They literally want people that think alike but do they really.This test is coachable:customer first,customer is always right-don't argue-answer 'positively' with that in mind-done coaching.How often does a manager say only if they had this or that:re the ideal company criteria.There's obviously certain 'negative' answers but one would have to lie to become the perfect YES person,member or soldier.Read an article on certain 'skill sets' or the necessity of college and this test is someone justifying their job.If as a manager or HR you cannot judge or deal with people more than likely you've de-selected yourself from these jobs in the past. | |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject: signals | |
| During background checks many employers have signals or code they use when dealing with applicants as do these tests but do these 'signals' or answers really tell the story.I just see too many applicants and no hires at places like Sears.Is the ultimate minimum wage customer service employee a realistic possibility.I've seen welfare to work employees thumb their nose at the corporate bs and leave and yet these are the very employees/applicants these companies think they can blackmail into the job. | |
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I remember taking the personality test too...God, working at sears is not rocket science....though they think it's the greatest company...NOT... |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:51 am Post subject: | |
| I WOULD PAY TO SEE WHAT SOME OF LOWES MANAGERS ANSWERS WERE ON THE PERSONALITY TEST!! I MEAN THERE IS NO WAY IN HAITIES THAT THE ANSWERS ARE TRUTHFUL!!! SOME OF THE MANAGERS CAN'T EVEN SPELL! HAHA | |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject: | |
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I remember a question for Sam's Club's application that went something like "true of false: At my last job I was often late but I'm over that now". I even asked the manager (I refuse to call them "coaches") what part am I answering? I was NOT frequently late for my last job so there is nothing to be over now but if I say "no" then it is assumed that I'll be late all of the time. This is too much brain activity for a Sam's Club application.
The one thing that Sears has taught me is that intellectual reasoning (and grammar) have NO place in the retail world. |
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Is this the pot calling the kettle black?? seems that it's not only the managers can't spell.... because it's HADES not Haities as you posted above .... Haiti is a little island in the tropics somewhere  
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject: | |
| I agree as to the lack of effort to retain the emploies that stores have all ready. We are trained and doing the job so to speak so why not keep us happy so we stay. | |