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Cramerican


Joined: 17 Aug 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: What is Sears really good at?  

ROTFL

http://sk-you.viewpoints.com/topics/What-is-Sears-really-good-at-/posts

How many brain cells do you have to be missing to be asking what a company with years of same store sales declines is good at!
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Major Appliance


Joined: 09 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:04 am    Post subject:  

hmmm

TIHT Books?
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bc5yr


Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 479
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject:  

those TIHT books are a joke. They might try investing in the SNIC's and then we'd know what we have in the back. Geeze just like all the other retailers. Cept's the SNIC's are always broken.
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Major Appliance


Joined: 09 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:29 am    Post subject:  

The TIHT book is the most useless thing I have ever seen in any position I have ever held.

We fill it out to keep the brass all happy, and use a simple legal pad to keep track of what we actually have and have sold.

KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid.

One wonders... WHY does any sales person care about FEN levels? We only care about what we actually have at that moment. I cannot see why they can't pull an automated report of sold stock for the previous month and adjust FEN levels based on a monthly analysis. Duh. Too simple for bureaucrats.

Plus the forms themselves look to be designed by a 3rd grader who just learned how to use Word.

Simply idiotic.
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goodole312


Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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Location: stuffed in the back room of a kmart
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:38 am    Post subject:  

bc5yr wrote:
those TIHT books are a joke. They might try investing in the SNIC's and then we'd know what we have in the back. Geeze just like all the other retailers. Cept's the SNIC's are always broken.



wonder how many sncs could have been bought/fixed and other system upgrades for what we spent on operation fubar
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lizardking


Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 1056
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:41 am    Post subject:  

I'll tell you something that doesn't make sense, refusing to send an item to the store because "your store doesn't sell enough of it to have any on hand." Any item will fit here. How can we sell it if they don't send it to us? These idiots can scream "Use HFM or the internet" all they want. Some people are old school and want it NOW. It drives my manager nuts too. She has tried to order certain things for us to have on hand only to be told we won't get it because our store doesn't sell enough of it to have on hand. Again, how can you sell it if you don't have it? But yet these same idiots will send us 60 gazebos and expect us to sell them all. The 10190 gazebo is half price right now at $149.99 and we still have over 30 of them. I continue to hear the same stupid question "Is this going to be any lower?" from customers. It's assinine to me what they pick and choose to send to the stores.
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steviesears


Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Posts: 292
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject:  

heh-

we had a crapload of those gazebos too. I snatched one a few weeks ago. Couldn't pass the deal up at that point.

And weirdly enough, the clearence price actually increased on them this month. I guess they were selling too good at 125, we may as well raise them to 149.
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lizardking


Joined: 21 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:53 am    Post subject:  

steviesears wrote:
heh-

we had a crapload of those gazebos too. I snatched one a few weeks ago. Couldn't pass the deal up at that point.

And weirdly enough, the clearence price actually increased on them this month. I guess they were selling too good at 125, we may as well raise them to 149.

Hey Stevie, we get a blizzard at DQ for selling one, did you get one for buying one?
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Snurbble


Joined: 10 Aug 2008
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject:  

That's sounds like a nice incentive. I wouldn't mind a Blizzard or anything other than a "can you sell more?"

How many Blizzards have you eaten?
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lizardking


Joined: 21 Apr 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject:  

Snurbble wrote:
That's sounds like a nice incentive. I wouldn't mind a Blizzard or anything other than a "can you sell more?"

How many Blizzards have you eaten?

Anyone who knows me knows I'm not motivated by food. These kindergarden bribes of there's do nothing for me. I sell to make money, not ice cream. Everyone else laughs this crap up like it was a last meal. I just shake my head. I've told many managers, "You want to motivate more? Pay me more. Don't throw this worthless crap in my face." I've gotten a bad attitude rap ever since. A blizzard does nothing for me, however, if I was given the actuall 2 or 3 dollars the blizzard would've cost, that would have been great in my book. Give me the money, not the food.
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Snurbble


Joined: 10 Aug 2008
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject:  

It does sound like a bad attitude. You know that your boss can't give you more money, it just isn't in his power. So they come up with an incentive that is within their power and you sneer at it.

I've seen teams of engineers who were making around $50k (mid 80s) bust their butts to get something finished with the promise of a meal at Fridays.

I like Blizzards, if I can get a free one, that's $4 that I don't have to spend out of my own pocket. Maybe I should work at your store.
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goodole312


Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:46 am    Post subject:  

lizardking wrote:
Snurbble wrote:
That's sounds like a nice incentive. I wouldn't mind a Blizzard or anything other than a "can you sell more?"

How many Blizzards have you eaten?

Anyone who knows me knows I'm not motivated by food. These kindergarden bribes of there's do nothing for me. I sell to make money, not ice cream. Everyone else laughs this crap up like it was a last meal. I just shake my head. I've told many managers, "You want to motivate more? Pay me more. Don't throw this worthless crap in my face." I've gotten a bad attitude rap ever since. A blizzard does nothing for me, however, if I was given the actuall 2 or 3 dollars the blizzard would've cost, that would have been great in my book. Give me the money, not the food.


eh anyone that doesnt kiss ass and blindly follow the koolaid swilling leaders has a bad attitude help keeps them from admitting that its all going down hill
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Snurbble


Joined: 10 Aug 2008
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:24 am    Post subject:  

I suppose that the argument can be made that you signed on to follow the leaders and if you can't do that, you should find employment elsewhere.

As for me, if they offer me a McDonald's cheeseburger for every tool set that I sell, I'm taking it. Pride goeth before a fall and false humility is a form of pride. I work for Sears, I can't afford to be too proud to accept anything. If it bothers me, I'll quit.
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goodole312


Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject:  

hmmmmm i signed on to serve the customers following the leaders is a distant second

and i like the classic management response from ya on that one too "if you dont like it leave" god forbid they actually try to address whats wrong and try to fix it
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MastaShake1108


Joined: 11 Apr 2007
Posts: 354
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject:  

Snurbble wrote:
I suppose that the argument can be made that you signed on to follow the leaders and if you can't do that, you should find employment elsewhere.

As for me, if they offer me a McDonald's cheeseburger for every tool set that I sell, I'm taking it. Pride goeth before a fall and false humility is a form of pride. I work for Sears, I can't afford to be too proud to accept anything. If it bothers me, I'll quit.


But what's the value of a McDonald's cheeseburger?

With that logic, everyone suffering from a lack of money should be happy the government/place of employment provides them a cheeseburger. Unfortunately that's not going to solve the issue, as it is here. It's not going to allay the problem that lizardking isn't getting paid enough and is (hypothetically) struggling.

So if a person cannot afford their house bill and can't find other work in our terrible economy, he shouldn't expect more, or rather, better form of reward?

And really, if they're going to pay for food, then why not just give them it's value in good old USD?
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Snurbble


Joined: 10 Aug 2008
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject:  

Why not? Because corporate won't allow them to pay more but evidently they can shake the money loose from petty cash to buy the burgers or blizzards. Heck, for all we know the money incentives might be coming from the boss's pocket.
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lizardking


Joined: 21 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:57 am    Post subject:  

Snurbble, just because you "will work for food" means we all should. If they give us a coupon or any other piece of paper that entitles us to a free food item is a tax write off for them. That's why they won't part with the money. I will admit, I was the first one cashing in the free lunch coupon once a month if we were at parity in PA's for the month. I wish they still would give us a lunch coupon redeemable in the mall food court for a free lunch. They used to actually take everyone to a restaurant for lunch, but coupons became easier. Did I like it? Did it motivate me? No. Yes I cashed it in, but it didn't make me do my job any better. But that was 10 years ago. Instead of lunch it's now a blizzard. It's gone from going to a nice restaurant once a month to a coupon redeemable up to 5 dollars, to now a blizzard or chips and crap. Don't tell me I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. These Aholes can now take this crap and kiss my ass. I don't need it. All they keep doing is taking away little by little and I know you weren't there during those times, but that's what I'm talking about. You don't know any better. How would you like it if your last employer gave you a steak for every extra you sold? Then it went to a hamburger? Then they came out to the sales floor with a cart and asked you if you wanted a water, soda, or a bag of chips? Wouldn't you say to yourself "Damn, I remember when the payout was a lot higher than this." Don't throw the crap if I don't like it I can leave crap. Yeah, I know that. That's why my attitude is now "I just want the money". And the funny thing is they act like they are doing me a favor by giving me this crap. I'm older now and I don't need it. Keep drinking the kool-aid Snurbble
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Snurbble


Joined: 10 Aug 2008
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject:  

" If they give us a coupon or any other piece of paper that entitles us to a free food item is a tax write off for them. "

Write-off? Most people that throw that term around have no idea what that is.

Wages are a business expense that reduce profit and consequently reduce taxes. Electricty and water are also expenses. Cheeseburgers and blizzard fall into the same category. Any money, every single cent, that you spend to operate your business winds up on your tax return . . . somehow, somewhere. Rent, cost of merchandise sold, wages, rewards, register tape, paint.

As I said earlier, I've seen highly paid, well educated people bust their tails for an expensive hamburger.

LK, you sound very unhappy. For your mental health, you really should get out and follow your dream whatever that may be.
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SearsService


Joined: 17 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject:  

Snurbble wrote:
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LK, you sound very unhappy. For your mental health, you really should get out and follow your dream whatever that may be.


This sounds like it came straight out of "Management 101". Razz

Should also add, sounds like the "fifth column" at work!
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Nofsdad


Joined: 06 Jul 2003
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Location: Central CA
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject:  

One of these days I'm going to write a book on how many different ways I've seen people say. "If you don't like it, leave". Mr. Green

At least they're a tad more subtle these days than they used to be.
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Snurbble


Joined: 10 Aug 2008
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject:  

SearsService wrote:
This sounds like it came straight out of "Management 101".


Actually, MGMT101 teaches, "if your people are unhappy don't try to make them happy, make them THINK that they are happy."
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Nofsdad


Joined: 06 Jul 2003
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject:  

Apparently, Sears managers can't do either one, eh?
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lizardking


Joined: 21 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject:  

Snurbble wrote:
" If they give us a coupon or any other piece of paper that entitles us to a free food item is a tax write off for them. "

Write-off? Most people that throw that term around have no idea what that is.

Wages are a business expense that reduce profit and consequently reduce taxes. Electricty and water are also expenses. Cheeseburgers and blizzard fall into the same category. Any money, every single cent, that you spend to operate your business winds up on your tax return . . . somehow, somewhere. Rent, cost of merchandise sold, wages, rewards, register tape, paint.

As I said earlier, I've seen highly paid, well educated people bust their tails for an expensive hamburger.

LK, you sound very unhappy. For your mental health, you really should get out and follow your dream whatever that may be.

Here again, don't tell me I'm unhappy. You know nothing about me. You have no idea how happy I am in life. I can careless about Sears, that's not my life, it's my job. Everyday I wake up happy because my 13 year old son is alive and is 12 years out of transplant from his bone marrow transplant because he was diagnosed with leaukiemia when he was barely a year old. My 3 year old had issues when he was born too on top of only having one eye. I'm grateful his vision is great in his left eye and we are working with the other issues he has. That's my life. I am so proud of both my sons being handed these unfair obstacles in their lives so early on and coming out of it ok. That's real life Snurbble. I only bring this up because you claim I'm unhappy and apparently mentally unstable and need to persue "my life's dream." I was given my life's dream TWICE. Both my sons are going to be ok and that's what's most important to me. Am I unhappy at Sears? WHO AIN'T? The only ones that are happy at Sears are the kool-aid drinkers and the Stepford Employees. Us normal employees are unhappy because we worked there when it was a different enviroment. You'll never know what it was like to work there when it really was a great place to work. Maybe if you are happy, then you have no idea what happiness is.
And another thing, management doesn't come from a handbook, it comes from the heart. You either know what to do or you don't. It isn't scripted from some so-called expert. That convincing people they are happy bullshit is so lame and shallow. I see right through the people that feel the need to tell me what I need to hear or act like they care when they don't. You're the one who needs a dose of reality. Maybe if you quit drinking the kool-aid and sober up, you might see it. Trust me, if I could get out of there tomorrow, I would run for the door. I'm not there because I'm mentally unstable and like being miserable there. I'm there because right now, I can't get in anywhere else. Not any of your business mind you. But I do have a family to look after and if I wasn't working at all, society would label me a "DEAD BEAT". I'd rather be miserable at Sears and still put food on the table than not working at all and expect someone else to take care of me and my family. To put it simple terms "I bitch because I can."
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Snurbble


Joined: 10 Aug 2008
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject:  

The long and the short of it that we are all at Sears by choice. None of us were drafted. If you don't like being there, you owe it to yourself to be elsewhere. There are other jobs.
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goodole312


Joined: 15 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject:  

Snurbble wrote:
The long and the short of it that we are all at Sears by choice. None of us were drafted. If you don't like being there, you owe it to yourself to be elsewhere. There are other jobs.




you would think that until you put in 5 or 6 applicationsand don't get any call backs
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