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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:31 am Post subject: "Employee Free Choice Act" | |
Contact your elected representatives and ask them to support the "Employee Free Choice Act." This act which is in Congress today,will make it easier for workers to join unions,through a card check system,without harassment from supervision. Major labor law reform is way past due and the EFCA levels the playing field for fairness in the work place. 
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:14 am Post subject: self interest | |
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I saw a recent article where I think it was Bernie Marcus AGAIN came out against the EFCA . The big boxes fear it the most because those boxes hold alot of employees . It's no coincidence that Home Depot started giving out bonuses when Nardelli left to the store employees . FranK Blake saw THIS coming .
This is also why Walmart gave and announced bonuses . There is even something to be said for confidentiality but the time and steps that keep confidentiality allow the company to intimidate the employee . It's a trade off . PS -where did all the HD employees go after the old IWW Retail Worker site shut down/changed ? |
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Location: east texas
| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: | |
For a while there was a web site called command1330.com where HD people were posting. It is not functional anymore. There doesn't seem to be much interest in this forum either. I have been posting on the corporate thdwarehouse.com site. You can access it on my apron or at home and share ideas with HD people all over the country. It's pretty active but I wouldn't be talking about unions on it. 
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: The Orange Blood Bank | |
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Speaking of union or not at HD I saw where there is a debate or policy ( I think on the Orange Blood Bank ) wether to even discuss unions .
Point being for any company or store be carefull that you don't wind up on a company owned/ran forum . Especially with unions . A blogger @ spanishmikealverez.blogspot.com pointed out that corporate is posting if not running the site . Which is another thing I noticed on HD forum searches . Apparently one site wants to directly link to corporate sites ? I also noticed alot of compliment posts on the consumerist lately on HD as well . I don't know wether corporate or management is trying to control and manipulate the opinions on HD or the consumerist just happens to have alot of HD employees . Also noticed that getting information on HD lawsuits is tough . They must get alot of records sealed or settle before they got to any formal hearings . Sometimes just the threat of a union can make a company go out of their way to treat the employees right . |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject: Yes to card check.... | |
when we say UNION why is it all of sudden people are in fear of a job they dislike or hourly wage they hate...old school says it won't happen -new school says it's they only way. food for thought -http://rwdsu.info/why-unions.htm-
  http://www.jwj.org/about.html  http://www.dailypress.com/news/opinion/dp-ed_ltrsmon_04136apr13,0,5422398.story
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| Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject: | |
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they might be in fear because the auto companies were unionized and had some of the most lucritive benifit packages ever given...and they've been laying off tens if not hundreads of thousands of people over the past 30 years.
Here's the problem with the logic of unionization here. It would be impossible to make a union from the ground up so chances are any union would have to require help from another. Not every union is just what the name says in terms of a trade. Not all teamsters are truck drivers for example OK let's say a union is formed....where's the power if a union can't go on strike? If it's not sophisticated work then the power of a strike is hardly anything. If doctors unionized and went on strike you can't simply drag someone off the streets to do brain surgury. But retail you can. Unions can exist and ultimatly will continue to exist but only in areas that are skilled. Obama has already implied he is not for the free choice act. I don't care what he says I care what he does. 1) fact - the government budget for 2010 starts this summer 2) fact - there's no significant increase in terms of pay or benifits or unionization attempt...if obama though it would pass there would have been extra money in the spending bill No one has ever really said what a union would do different...higher pay? better hours? more staffing? these all come with a cost and unless that money comes from some place I doubt it would happen. It's the shareholders that control a company as they own it. So what would compell the shareholders to spend more money without any end results to go by? You can't simply just have a union you have to sell it. Even if one formed there's no contract and no guarantee of one. Who would be in this union anyway? Which people? does part time count? If someone moves up to a point would that disqualify them? Also it's illegal to run a closed shop so that means that people can't be forced into a union...would they get the same benifits? These are very basic questions that have to be answered for this to work. |
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"Joining a union has nothing to with company management or shareholders."
Yes it does at least in terms of if the union is accepted by management "Its the workers themselves who will determine if a union will benefit them or not." True "Workers will not go to the boss and ask if they can please form a union." Well thats obvious "Union membership is up and growing in this country,but slowly. A basic right in this country is the right of association,whether its religion,sports,education,unions etc." You have a right to gather but you are confusing two things here 1) yes certainly people can organize and form groups 2) But that does not mean a union would actually get a contract...without a contract there's really nothing extra So yes it does deal with shareholders because they own the place. It also deals with the management too because unions obviously hold and want power. Here's the other thing...if a union goes in of course they'd want more pay, benifits and better working conditions (thats the purpose of it) so where's this supposed to come from? If management is making the money then obviously they are going to not recongnize a union. |
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