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Ickimore
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:38 pm Post subject: I think
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I think I've scared Kanaka by using his own logic against him. He is forced to either disagree with a statement he made earlier in this thread, or he is forced to agree that Sean Penn has violated the code for performing actions that benefit Iraq prior to the war in Iraq (a war he was very much in agreement with Sean Penn on).
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kanaka
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:44 pm Post subject:
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Ickimore, you definitely haven't scared me, but you can take Sean Penn nonetheless.
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Ickimore
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:45 pm Post subject: lol
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OK, maybe scared is the wrong word.
But at the least, you are having to accept that some of the folks that took actions that you were in support of are actually in violation of the code that you believe should be followed 100%, no?
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kanaka
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:47 pm Post subject:
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That is true on both sides of the border.
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Ickimore
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:49 pm Post subject: sure
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Sure, what is the penalty for flag desecration as compared to treason?
Well, treason has a penalty of death.
I tend to doubt the penalty for flag desecration is as severe.
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kanaka
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:50 pm Post subject:
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Imagine if it were under one statute.
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Ickimore
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:53 pm Post subject: imagine
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The only thing I can imagine is that the penalties for the two offenses are not tied together, and quite honestly, signing a flag is a lot different than going on television and in the newspapers saying that Iraq is a wonderful bastion of freedom that we are about to destroy.
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Ickimore
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:00 pm Post subject: Penn
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Tariq Aziz pays tribute to Sean Penn
Saddam Hussein's deputy says actor denounced U.S. 'aggression'
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Posted: December 15, 2002
6:13 p.m. Eastern
© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com
Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz, who met privately with actor-director Sean Penn, says the Hollywood star spoke out strongly against U.S. "aggression" against Iraq.
"Aggression goes completely against the interests of the American people and threatens peace and security, not only in this region, but throughout the world," official dailies quoted Penn as telling Aziz in the meeting.
The Iraqi deputy prime minister congratulated Penn on his "opposition to all wars and all forms of aggression" and urged other peace activists to follow his lead "so that peace and security can reign throughout the world."
The film star had previously declined to comment to reporters, insisting he wanted to avoid the limelight and concentrate on understanding the standoff between his country and the Iraqi regime.
"Simply put, if there is a war or continued sanctions against Iraq, the blood of Americans and Iraqis alike will be on our [American] hands," Penn said at a news conference in the Iraqi capital yesterday.
His three-day visit which began Friday was sponsored by the San Francisco, California-based Institute for Public Accuracy, an organization that sponsored a September visit to Baghdad by Rep. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va., in a bid to "give peace a chance."
Penn spent the day yesterday walking the streets of Saddam City, a poor suburb of Baghdad with his camera. He said he did not understand why U.S. leaders "have not shared with the American people the evidence that they claim to have on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."
"I certainly hope that there is a very good reason for it," he told a press conference. Penn said he had not come to criticize any governments, and would reserve his comments for after he returned home. "I've made it a policy while being here, in sensitivity to Americans ... to not criticize our own policy while being abroad. I will make my opinion known about policy strongly when I return to the USA. I came here to learn and not to teach," he added.
The actor wandered through the mostly Shiite Muslim area unnoticed, telling one journalist his camera attracted more attention than he did.
"The biggest star with the children in the Iraqi street is the camera, they are very interested in having their pictures taken," he said.
Penn complained of a daily "saturation of ideology" surrounding the Iraqi crisis and added: "I needed to come here, a very simple thing, and see a smile, a street, smell the smells, talk to the people and take that home with me.
"I come here optimistically in the hope that this situation could be resolved peacefully."
Penn expressed satisfaction with his meeting with Aziz, describing him as courteous.
The actor was scheduled to leave Iraq late last evening.
Hopefully this explains my reference in regards to Sean Penn for those that do not know. Sean Penn met with Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz and told him how the USA is all screwed up for not liking Iraq, just two short months before the war. He then came back to the US and started a media campaign to try to persuade people that the USA was all screwed up.
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Unhappy1314
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Man desecrates U.S. flag
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President Bush signs American flags for workers at Beaver Aerospace and Defense (link)
U.S. Code, Title 4, Chapter 1, Section 8 (g):
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| "The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature." |
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what i find disgusting is that bush signed the flag...who the hell is he that he can pen his chicken scratch on the US flag? i don't think anyone should ever write on the flag...THAT is desecration of a wonderful symbol
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Ickimore
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:43 pm Post subject: yup
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Yup, Bush should be put in prison for it. And Sean Penn should be executed for his treasonous acts. Sound like a plan?
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Unhappy1314
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: yup
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| Ickimore wrote: |
Yup, Bush should be put in prison for it. And Sean Penn should be executed for his treasonous acts. Sound like a plan?
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sounds good to me!
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Ickimore
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:45 pm Post subject: ok
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OK, sounds good. Robert Sheer, Sean Penn, Jimmy Carter, and a whole host of others that have violated this law should be executed.
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Unhappy1314
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:49 pm Post subject: Re: ok
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| Ickimore wrote: |
OK, sounds good. Robert Sheer, Sean Penn, Jimmy Carter, and a whole host of others that have violated this law should be executed.
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yup
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Ickimore
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:55 pm Post subject: ok
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OK, glad we agree
Thank god for Kanaka he lives in Canada, because he could have been bagged under this law also. Whew!
Oh wait, sorry about your luck Unhappy!
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