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CCCs Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 762	Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:16 am    Post subject: How America got lied into war   How America got lied into war Quote: The President "lied" us into war. Much of the pre-war intelligence was wrong. The civilian defense chief was detested as "brusque, domineering and unbearably unpleasant to work with." Civil liberties were abridged. And many embittered Democrats, claiming the war had been an utter failure, demanded that the administration bring the troops home.
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sleK Administrator Joined: 30 Jun 2003 Posts: 1010 Location: over yonder	Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject:   Good article and I agree with the authors premise that the outcome will ultimately decide its value. However, I think it's disingenuous to draw parallels between the actions of the president during a civil war and the the actions of the president during an invasion of a sovereign nation. It's one thing to fuck with you're own country, quite another to fuck with someone else's.
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Nofsdad Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 7090 Location: Central CA	Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject:   Yeah, definitely apples and oranges there. There are no parallels between the war for secession and the war in Iraq. I'm sure there are better arguments out there without having to make that stretch.
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Joe the Farmer Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 107	Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:39 am    Post subject:   sleK wrote: ... it's disingenuous to draw parallels between the actions of the president during a civil war and the the actions of the president during an invasion of a sovereign nation. It's one thing to fuck with you're own country, quite another to fuck with someone else's. Absolutely.... the US administration has literally ignited a firestorm.... And for the Dairy Queen, I am NOT a "parrot"... just a person who values the concept of SOVEREIGN governments, and the freedom we now enjoy in the US.... I like pickled beets.... many people don't..... I don't push beets down the throat of anybody... and I damn sure don't make them pay me so I can buy beets with their money...
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Magnolia Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 1457	Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject:   I see no parallels with Lincoln and our current administration… there is one BIG difference $$$…. I don’t think Lincoln had personal financial benefits in mind. From an editorial in our local newspaper today: “As long as there is big business in war, there will be war”.
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Nofsdad Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Posts: 7090 Location: Central CA	Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject:   A Republican president, Dwight Eisenhower, who had built his entire life and reputation around fighting wars, was trying to tell us that way back in the early 60s. We never listen.
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