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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: Mexico to decriminalize drug possession | |||
This certainly doesn't help matters.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060502.wmexdrug0502/BNStory/International/ |
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 3:24 am Post subject: | |
| I'm not EVEN going to get into that one. | |
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Here we go again...
How so? It seems like a simple case of no harm, no foul, and a boatload of law enforcement resources freed up to tackle issues that actually matter. If anything, perhaps it will spur the american government, with its irrational fear of (some) drugs, into securing the border. ***
Oh c'mon! Everybody already knows that you're the biggest stoner here! 
Cuatro veinte! |
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 9:17 am Post subject: | |||
Why, yes. Yes, of course Slek. |
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:29 am Post subject: | |
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Well, if you have some contention, why don't you state it? Your little one-off remarks achieve nothing.
This a discussion forum for crying out loud. It's not "Magnolia's link & run board". If you don't want to discuss it, don't post it. |
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 11:43 am Post subject: | |||||
Same argument. Same attitude. No need to spread it to another thread.
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I don't understand. Would it pain you to be more specific?
Then it's a good thing you started this one. /sarcasm |
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 3:05 pm Post subject: | |
| Cuatro veinte! Now that's funny | |
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Since you asked… yes, this (new drug law) bothers me (but of course that that doesn’t matter because as you stated earlier you must be able to verify everything or it holds no weight) in that now we, that being the good ole USA, now have a neighbor that has legalized drugs that in my opinion are dangerous and that will no doubt cross our borders with illegals and we will end up with drugs on our streets, if for no other reason than to sell them. I have children that I do not want exposed to such behavior not to mention the dangers drug useage brings with it in the form of drivers being under the influence, as my children drive the same streets, along with other communicable deseases that drug use spreads not to mention there’s the added cost to our health system in treating drug users that have crashed their cars or walked off a building, which is inevitable, anchor babies born addicted to drugs -born to illegal parents- whose care will fall squarely on our health system, not to mention care for the drug addicted illegals who will no doubt want to come to America for better care than they will get in their own country, and the gang related problems which are notoriously already spreading and documented to be mainly headed by groups from South America that support their organization with the sale of drugs. But still you contend that we, the lazy Americans, need to get off our butts and do something about it… secure our borders… hire more border guards… build a fence… and seize the big businesses that hire the illegals… WHICH I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH… (but you seem to have missed that part) not to mention you admitted that you have no real illegal immigration problems – could that be because you benefit from having a relatively ‘healthy’ neighbor on your southern border who does not particularly sneak across the borders by the millions to suck off your free health care system… (last I checked there was no physical barrier dividing the two countries – just like our border with Mexico)… or is it that your border patrol is exceedingly superior… yet you insist on being the expert and continue to nit-pick with quotes from US government agencies that state how much or how little the illegals cost -or contribute- to the economy, when those very statements are vague and include “Social Security officials do not know what fraction” … and “Our assumption is that three-quarters of other-than-legal immigrants…” which in US Government speak means they have no damn way to verify how much it is costing us or benefiting us, and us meaning the people, NOT big business who abuse illegals and pockets every penny they can without returning much from where it came... and I still hold individual illegals responsible for their actions and still feel that it is the individual that chooses to be an illegal and they cannot demand rights in this country that they do not own – Amnesty which is not their right simply because they managed to drop a baby in the country OR because an unethical businessman suckered them into the country as they know it is illegal to do so - and unless you saw those TV broadcasts for yourself, or saw the hundreds like I saw wearing ‘Amnesty’ stickers on their shirts (which is the that attitude which upsets many Americans), you will think that unverifiable because that was not the purpose of their mass protest marches, was it? (do you not think it odd that they sure as heck can get THAT word right, but they need our Anthem in Spanish?) And I expect you to swing this whole thing back around to the laziness of the American people and our government holding the illegals harmless in all of this – and your argument will be the same… so there is no need to spill ‘that argument’ to another thread.
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject: | |
| I read in the paper today that he has backed down on this, that he won't sign the law. Anybody else see or hear this? | |
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: | |||
YEP |
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: | |
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Hooray!!! Thanks, guys.
(I get my paper in the p.m. didn't know.  )
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Wow. Ever heard of a line break? Carriage return? The "enter" key?
Actually no, that's not what I stated. I said that citations from offline sources like books, periodicals, newspapers etc. don't carry as much weight in an online debate because of the fact that they cannot be easily verified. It's really not that difficult to understand or to keep in context. Regardless, I'd like to take this opportunity to introduce you to your new best friend, the Slippery Slope:
Your entire argument, if you want to call it that, is factually and logically fallacious. It starts its decline down the slope with the "will no doubt cross our borders" statement and picks up some serious speed with "and we will end up with drugs on our streets". It just gets more ridiculous from there. Decriminalization is a good topic, worthy of much debate, but it's unfortunate that you're unable or unwilling to approach the topic rationally. |
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