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Nofsdad
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: Open Letter To WalMart
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Actually happened to me and this was actually sent to WalMart in Bentonville.
Beware of GEORGE underwear.
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I ordered 8 pairs of those stretchy GEORGE boxer briefs from your men's department. They're the ones that come two to a fancy, reusable little plastic snap pouch, which I thought was rather elegant and which provided me with some handy dandy little containers for all kinds of stuff I don't have and undoubtedly added to the price I paid for the actual garments but that isn't why I'm writing.
Put the first pair on this morning after getting out of the shower and was very favorably impressed. Most comfortable underwear I think I've ever owned, really feel good, fit well, nice material and just the right amount of stretch. Just one teensy little problem though, which prompts my question for you.
Why would anyone sell men's underwear with no fly opening? There's an outline of it as if it was in the original pattern and some heavier material in that area but everything is stitched closed.
No longer can you efficiently perform what can become an urgent task in little or no time at all. This makes absolutely no sense and totally negates over a century of development. These undershorts add several steps to what was formerly a quick and simple little job that could be performed with a minimum of fuss and bother. It can be especially disconcerting to us old heart patients who take Lasix on a daily basis as it has already pushed me to the edge of catastrophe at least twice today.
Can it be that with many women turning to men's style underwear, the manufacturers have decided to eliminate this vital opening in order to protect the more delicate sensibilities of the ladies who might also find them more comfortable than their own standard fare?
Or is it simply that they are manufactured in a sweatshop in Bangladesh (which according to the label is correct) where they have yet to develop the concept of men's underwear, at least in the style we are used used to in the more developed countries?
If either, maybe they ought to be labeled as unisex and a warning required similar to those on tobacco products... something like "Caution: The lack of a fly opening in these garments may be hazardous to your dignity.".
Whatever the case, you owe it to your male customers to let them know that what is probably the most important part of a pair of men's underwear is totally missing from this particular brand. If you're deliberately buying them that way, I have to question why. If not, you need to pay more attention to what you're buying.
Allow me to thank you in advance for your quick attention to this problem. I know you'll want to take care of it as quickly as possible. |
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Magnolia
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject:
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Love ya Nofs!
LMAO
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Nofsdad
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:00 am Post subject:
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My daughter suggested that I write them again and suggest that they change the name of the line to Georgette. That way us unsuspecting male types would have some warning that something might be amiss, even though they were available in the men's department.
So I did.
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USA#1
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:29 am Post subject:
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Oh, hey, now at least you men know how us women feel.
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Nofsdad
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject:
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Oh, hey, now at least you men know how us women feel.  |
My daughter said that too.
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USA#1
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject:
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LOL Nofs. Its a pain in more ways than one.
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Nofsdad
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject:
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Got my answer from WalMart this morning. I think they missed the point.
They want bar codes and several different types of numbers as well as the brand name (which I had provided already) and a bunch of information from the original packaging, none of which I any longer have, of course. I knew, when I wrote the letter, that there was no way I would ever get a refund on the merchandise and didn't even bother to try. I knew I'd be dealing with pre-programmed androids if I did.
I just want them to stop selling what amounts to women's underwear in their men's department online, where there is no chance to actually see and inspect the merchandise you're ordering. I don't want any more unpleasant surprises, that's all.
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SearsCanada
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject:
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| I knew I'd be dealing with pre-programmed androids |
Nofs, the androids probably don't need a fly, and therefore, can not compute....
Keep writing, and see how long it takes for a humanoid to get involved. IF nothing else (like an apology or refund), you might get some enjoyment out of the process!
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Nofsdad
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject:
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I just started it for kicks SC, but I think I will keep it going though until someone notices me. Heck, I have a lady friend who's a long time WalMart CSM, and SHE won't even talk to me about it. My next step is to hit all the consumer complaint sites with the story.
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Nofsdad
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject:
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On advice from Sears Canada, I am hereby declaring war on WalMart!!! All out open war!!!! I shall fight in the streets and in the fields and on the beaches and in consumer complaint blogs everywhere, and even though I face overwhelming odds and I may be beaten, I will never surrender.
I will not be held hostage to evil corporate interests bent on changing my basic intrinsic habits to suit their lazy and margin influenced manufacturing and marketing agendas. Sure, we all know that it costs less to produce men's underwear without fly openings but if we're willing to pay the 2 and a half cents extra, why do they insist of forcing flyless underwear upon us?
What evil plot is afoot that requires both of our hands to be occupied at such crucial times? Men first started peeing standing up in order to remain on guard and alert to danger and to keep one hand free for the use of his weapons to defend himself and his family? Why is WalMart trying to change basic human nature?
The entire future of men's underwear is at stake and if WalMart is allowed to get away with this nefarious, no doubt left wing inspired attempt to reverse evolution and to force men into actually having to drop their pants and pull down their underwear to pee, what's next? Ruffles and lace? Satin? Self lowering toilet seats for Chrissake?????
It's time to stand up to the evil dragon that WalMart has become. Boycott the men's underwear department until such time as they put a MAN in charge of it once again, one willing to "stand up" for his right to pee the way men have peed for thousands of years. Until they do, this is WAR!
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USA#1
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject:
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Ya know, Nofs, I'm sitting here laughing my big butt off. If anything else, write them back and ask if they will start carrying those coveralls with the flaps in the back cause you have an outhouse and need to go in the dark.
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Nofsdad
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject:
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Damn! I started researching flyless under wear and I just may be in the minority once again. I found several "fashion freedom" sites in which guys were bragging up flyless underwear. I was amazed at how many of them were advocating the things because they preferred sitting down to pee anyway.
Then I started noticing other little references and it also appears that most of these "guys" also wear skirts and pantyhose and some of them were complaining about not being able to keep their skirts dry if forced to do their business standing up and... well, you get the picture
I guess I'm even too old to shop at WalMart if this is the demographic that WalMart is after. Just makes me doubly sure I'll never oder underwear sight unseen again.
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Magnolia
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject:
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| Nofsdad wrote: |
On advice from Sears Canada, I am hereby declaring war on WalMart!!! All out open war!!!! I shall fight in the streets and in the fields and on the beaches and in consumer complaint blogs everywhere, and even though I face overwhelming odds and I may be beaten, I will never surrender.
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You're not up to any funny business, are ya Nofs?
http://www.retailworker.com/node/25610
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USA#1
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject:
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| Nofsdad wrote: |
Damn! I started researching flyless under wear and I just may be in the minority once again. I found several "fashion freedom" sites in which guys were bragging up flyless underwear. I was amazed at how many of them were advocating the things because they preferred sitting down to pee anyway.
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That's so they can sit and "read" them magazines and be able to get, er, you get the picture.
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Magnolia
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject:
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Well Nofs, atleast you don't have this guy's problem
Man with 10-year erection awarded $400,000
Malfunctioning penile implant is painful and can't be removed.
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| ...the steel and plastic device never worked right. While it was supposed to allow him to position his penis up for sex, then down the rest of the time, he’s been unable to lower it. |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13509704/
Why do I find this so funny ??
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Nofsdad
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:37 am Post subject:
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I thought of several comments I couold make on that one but I decided not to make any of them.
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bc5yr
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:16 am Post subject:
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This is truly funny nofs...
I have to ask you this, could it be you just need to release the hidden basting?
When they make womens jackets the pockets are still sewn shut. (dressy jackets) and mens dress pants, back pockets, are sometimes left sewn shut also. It's an easier way to sew the fabric pieces togeather. When the garment it complete you take your seam ripper and open the whole by removing the basting (the lose stitch that keeps the pieces togeather) or in some instances you just use your little sewing scissors (sp, ) to cut the material between the two main stiches. This is an Old sewing trick to make the job easier.
Just a suggestion... These underwear sound hilarious.
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Nofsdad
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:20 am Post subject:
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Well, I actually thought of that but then I'd have at least one frayed edge and since these are a knit material I was afraid that they would come unravelled and I'd wind up with more "opening" than I needed. I may try it anyway.
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bc5yr
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:26 am Post subject:
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Well at least you knew what I was talking about.... and I'm still laughing... way to funny.
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SearsCanada
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:48 am Post subject:
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LMAO
good thing mine have a fly, otherwise this post might just make me pee myself!!!
Nofs, it was only a suggestion, I didn't mean to implant a thought so deeply disturbing that you might actually consider wearing a skirt with those flyless undies....
I always took you as one that would consider an idea or thought fully, before jumping in with such enthusiasm. However, since I am fully to blame for this spectacle, please do share with us your next set of communications with Walmart. All we real men will stand and wee with you!!
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USA#1
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:18 am Post subject:
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I'm bumping this one up due to Father's Day coming up in June. Now, Nofs, don't be going around ordering more of them boxers with no flies.
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