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Magnum
Joined: 31 Jan 2008
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: Holding Specialists accountable w/ budgets
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Have you guys had this?? I am curious if anyone else has heard this in their store. I not talking about the little card and the sales meeting with your Sales Manager everyweek where they tell you this our budget for the week and we need to hit it. I'm talking one on one meetings with all of the Specialists in the store which are told attain this or else? To my knowledge they tried this a few years ago and then backed off. New asshole store manager...just curious.
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mdovell
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject:
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they can try budgets but I doubt they'd hit them. They set bars high consistantly.
sales manager cannot fire anyone so it's not like someone would even be demoted if they don't make the level
you can't force people to come into a store...weather, events outside all effect traffic
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Magnum
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject:
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That's an interesting response..thankyou however its not the Sales manager doing this. Its the store manager...personally I think he's "blowing smoke" just trying to intimidate everyone but you never know with this company.
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terminator
Joined: 19 Oct 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:39 am Post subject:
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Bah....Bah....The poor share holders and major investors arn't happy, Boo Hoo.
........Either are we.....Work to live....and live to work.
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mdovell
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject:
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and the thing is that most of the company isn't even owned by any of the employees (management included)
Capital management owns most of the company
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skibunny
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:37 am Post subject:
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Many specialists are being held accountable for their monthly budgets. This is a way to get rid of people that are a drain on the payroll.
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Magnum
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject:
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They tried this a few years ago in my Region and backed off fast. I have a hard time beleiving there is any real substance to it. First: It would be instant unemployment benefits(which is bad for Lowe's) Second: ALL Specialists worried about their numbers would stop ANY manual labor of any kind concerned that they may lose a potential sale.
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leavinglowes2
Joined: 22 Aug 2008
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:38 am Post subject:
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How can you a specialist be responsible for the consumers buying decisions.. Does that make you guys high pressured? Pressuring your clients into buying stuff they dont want or need? does that make you get your rocks off when you suggest something else that is a waste of money?
Lowes cannot hold you accountable for anything!!!! When they flood the market with stores...keep adding new stores....and you are suposta hit your budget and some for the next year how can this be? Do you ever stop to think that the sky does have a limit?
Lowes can only go so high. Just like the old ball bounce story....What goes up must come down!
Like any giant....the bigger they are the harder they fall.
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skibunny
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject:
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There definately is accountability for each employee. The only way to hold specialists accountable is to give them a monthly budget. The bad thing is that they don't fact into that mix the economy or sick time or vacations.
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Magnum
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject:
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O.K. let me put it this way in over ten years of service I can think of noone that has ever been terminated for sales performance. Can anyone claim they have?
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seabeeut
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:27 am Post subject:
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as a sales manager, I can assure you that salesmen cant be fired for not hitting goals. Nor can they be written up for it. However, dealing with a sleezy store manager such as the one I had in Ar, I can say that there are many other reasons they can think or to get rid of people if they want. I was told several times to "come up with reasons" to write up and get rid of my associates. Reasons such as digging into their action items and writing them up for poor comments. Or leaving lots of worklist and writing them up for not completing them. Then there was the "Go back 2 months and see how many time they left early or came in late" Believe me, if a store manager wants you gone, you will be gone.
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boardwalkties
Joined: 18 Jul 2008
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Location: Region 1
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:24 am Post subject:
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Just screw up a few SOS orders in Millwork and watch how quickly you'll be gone for "poor sales performance." Commercial Sales Specialists have more pressure on them because Commercial Sales is one of the "big 3" and to some extent they hold their fate in their hands in the distorted minds of Lowe's management. Why? Because CSS are supposed to make monthly calls to current and new businesses, and go out "into the field," all in an effort to solicit and bring new business into the store. Let's face it, the pressure of sales quotas trickles down from corporate to regional to district to store manager to sales manager to you. In the end, like seabeeut said, if they want you gone, they'll find a way to get rid of you. It may take some time but it'll happen. I've seen it dozens of times.
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